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Hi Emma

Wishing you all the Luck in the World,if only these 2 'parents' could stop seeing things just their way and realize what they are doing to their children :O( Hope you get to see them soon xx

hi Emmybaby,

I have sent you a Pm hope it will help.



Good Luck.

Stardrop.

You know where I am Emmy, take care and good luck

Lizxx

Best of luck we haven't met before but it must be heart breaking I have 3 grandchildren myself .there should be rights for grandparents.

Emmy,
i wish you all the luck in the world ..
will be keeping my fingers crossed for you ..
Hazelx

Good luck to you. My S.I.L. is'nt allowed to see her 2 grandchildren, that means the children do not see their gt. grandparents either. I think these children miss out on so much with the wider family. Hope it goes well for you.
Hilary. xx

Emmy my heart goes out to you, you must fight, but your son and dil will always have the upper hand, and thats the sad fact.
lots of hugs lynn

n

Well everybody I thank you all for your love and support,for those of you who dont know about my situation.

I had my grandaughter from birth although she lived in a different town,we had her staying with us most weeks then my son and his wife would come collect her to take her home,then the grand son was born 10 month after her we never got him as often as the grandaughter,I then lost my mum to cancer and a few month after the funeral they decided to move in with me and my hubby,we never took money from them all was layed on for them,about a year later they found a house and moved 8 miles from me,I still saw them often,the plan was that i would lookafter the babes whilst dil went back to work,but as soon as she moved in with us she went on the sick,with post natal deppression,my grandson was 3 years old,she had no intention of going back to work,so we had the oppertunity to buy in Spain,we took this up,we had them over three ,four times a year all cost paid i even bought the childrens passports for the first two that they needed,we paid for all the flights etc. Then hubby was sent to Saudi but we still saw them all the time i was in saudi too for 2 years,but still paid for the hotel bills they used to have their own suite whilst we had the children with us in our suite.
Even in Saudi we had web cam contact two three times a week,we only got two weeks leave every 4 month but the two weeks were always spent with them all.
Whilst I was living in Spain my son rang me told me he was worried about money he had an overdraft of three grand I paid that off then the credit cards came next four grand on one i paid that off,and gave them a direct payment from my bank for 4 years to enable them to pay off the second credit card off.
I then had to come out of Saudi and rented a house in uk to enable me to see the children more,I could have gone back to Spain but no I went back,then I was having the children on a weekend which was brill we used to snuggle up every saturday for the x factor.Then she started flaunting all these new outfits under my nose that she had bought from next bare in mind I was still paying them the money to pay credit card off,I was a bit off with her as even I dont shop in NEXT then one weekend I was to pick the children up to bring to my house,I arrived early she was upstairs not knowing I had arrived early thought it would be nice to have a girly chat befor the children came of the school bus what I found was a top fireplace company putting in a new fire place in the study,she was shocked to see me early and was miffed that the bloke arrived late to fit fireplace,by rights I never go in the study but I saw what was going on he was supposed to finish before I got there but hadnt,my son came in just as it was complete and ask me my opinion of it I just said it was nice and asked the price,he said awh just about 700 pound, me silly pratt was paying for that and concerts and wedding trips and overnight stays in hotels,it be gan to burn into me,so when they said they were going to London to take the children to Hamleys I was a bit miffed as I wasnt invited to go but her sister went with them and her two boys,I again was paying for that also.
The attitude she had when she spoke to me was unbelievable,had I got a problem with them going to London,I said not and left it at that.
Then came xmas,it got so it was getting more difficult to see my grandchildren,yet he wanted all we had bought them and believe me it was a few meagre presents,so he could put them under the tree on xmas eve I said I wanted to be there when they opened the gifts on xmas morning so what was wrong with me fetching them on xmas morning,I sussed them out they hadnt bought much and needed my piles to be there to make it look good,in the end I had had enough and sent them on a 15 pound taxi ride to his house,he was fuming as the taxi driver got lost and rang me,I gave him my sons phone number to enable my son to guaid him in.

The next day he stormed in my house slung a cd a card from children onto my table and told me I HAD DIPPED I asked him who has dipped he told me that I haddont come to my house again til you apologise ........ I followed him to the door I was angry and told him that it was his wife who has dipped and for her to get a job,I then cancelled all payments to her bank account.
I had the oppertunity to have 5 minutes on boxing day that year with my grand children who hugged and sqeezed me almost to death,he stood gaurd at his front door telling the children to hurry up,all he had to do was say come on mum have a cuppa but no he demanded the children to get in the house and thats it.
Yes I have kept everything Isent in mail to them all and they are in a box ready for the children,we also set up accounts for them,250 pound each xmas 40 pound each month pocket money 20 pound easter egg money 50 pound each birthday.
What else can I do???????

Emmy I do not know your story but I wish you all the luck in the world.
I have not seen my four grandchilren for about seven years, my daughter has cut herself off from everyone in the family including her two sisters and her grandmother who is 86 and was very good to her and her children when she was going through a bad time, has I was. Makes me so angry.

I wish you all the luck in the world.
I know exactly what you are going through.
I don't know anything about you and yours but in my case
we helped to bring them up and then it seemed we were not needed once the job was done.
Of course when the story is told by the other side, it may be different... that is what happens in families.
There was no argument or unpleasantness on our case.
Ah well, such is life.
Deanna X

Hi Emmybaby.

I am so sory for you with relations to your Grandchildren Hope all turns out well for you.

Hope you do not mind me asking but do you have a social worker helping you.


Stardropxxxx

Emmy Good luck with your fight, but as Jean says, grandparents have not rights.
A friend of mine who looked after one of grandchildren while the parents worked, was left broken hearted when they split and the mother moved to England.
My friend took legal advice, and was told it would cost her a fortune to go to court, and she would probably lose, as she was 'only a grandparent'.

I was stopped from seeing my grandkids for 6wks, through no fault of mine, and it broke my heart.

They are my lifes oxygen, and I couldn't go through that again.

Thankfully, the problem who caused the situation has been removed.

They will grow up Emmy, and ask for you, and hopefully they will come looking for you.

Good Luck

Jean I was under the impression that the law had changed in the last few years and Grandparents could apply for access just as an absent parent can? I have to admit that part of me thinking that is due to a Jeremy Kyle show I saw where he stated that things were different now and Grandparents had rights, so I could very well be wrong.
I wouldn't be without my kids Grandparents being in their lives. They have brought so much enrichment to them. And even now at 14 and 15 they still have at least one evening each a week there having tea and just generally spending nice time with them.

Unfortunately Emmy grandparents have no rights under the law as I know to my cost. I have not seen my youngest grandson for 50 weeks. I write to him and as far as I know he is given the cards and letters...at least they are not returned to me.

He is 9 years old and I live in hope that one day, before it is too late, he will question why a person whom he saw almost every day of his first eight years is no longer a part of his world.

I wish you all the luck in the world and hope that your case succeeds.

Jean.

I wish you well and if there's any justice in this world you will granted access to your grandchildren, you have every right to see them, I as an auntie was told I could apply for access to see my nieces and nephews and in my personal opinion grandparents are even more vital to children.

Best of luck xx

I wish you well and hope it all works out for you and your Grandchildren.
from a different Helen x

Hiya. Good luck, and I hope you're keeping all those cards etc. that you had returned ............... it would go in your favour later on when the grandchildren find out that Gran sent them things.

Take care.
x

hope all goes well for you and you get access, it must be heart breaking for you.

Ann
Glos

Good luck - hope you will soon be reunited with your grandchildren
Love Mary xx