General Chat

I saw Steve Wilkos on TV the other day, interviewing the jailed "mother" of little Lattie McGee, a four-year-old tortured and killed by her boyfriend, and she had some involvement as well. This, I think, was in 1987.

The details are too horrendous to put on here, but bless him, he's at peace now.

I need not say what I think about monsters that do this.

Be careful, Angie, we might become friends lol. I agree Helen there should be no second chances for people who do these things to children.

Sue

Any person who can commit these crimes against their children are sick ,evil people.
I am the type of person who is always saying give someone a second chance.But something like this NO SECOND CHANCE.!!!

I don't think anyone would disagree over your opinion of these people who murder their little ones. My daughter and her husband also had problems having children and it broke our hearts to see their desperation. They now have 3 beautiful little ones including twins so we are lucky.

However, not all people in dire straits mistreat their children. Perhaps they don't live in an ideal situation but the children are loved and wanted. I don't believe it's for us to make overall judgements on who should or shouldn't have children.

My main gripe is women who move a man into their home five minutes after they've met them and then leave the child alone with them. This has happened here in Australia too often. The young fellow is often unable to cope with a crying child and under the influence of alcohol or drugs has hurt the little one in their "care".

Sue

Igor,

Yes MH I B would have served full life sentances in my opinion simply for the number of murders they commited ,life would have been given for each one. so serving at least 15-years each account.
But the system has changed since the 60s,when they served at least 25 years for one account.....had it happend a few years before they maybe would have been hanged.

We all abhor any hurt inflicted on any child but sadly till its happened and brought to media attention reports it goes on unheard of.

a very touchy thread really,and am open to all opinions, be it whether i agree or not after all we live in a democracy (or do we)

I think they would Igor. Huntley did. So have others who have abducted to kill.

kay
i really do know where your coming from it is a catch 22 situation and nobody is going to happy , but these people if their fond guilty and it is a very large if should never be allowed to see daylight again . sorry but it is only an opinion.
heres the rub and please , please don't shoot me down in flames would myra hindly and ian brady been jailed for life meaning life if it had happened 40 or so years later in a more liberal age you decide
igor

ypu know on reflection, the tragic thing is my eldest son and his lovely wife can't have the children they would both dearly love and relish all the love they have on theiir nephews and nieces they would be perfect parents but the adoption system is such a spiders web of red tape and beurocracy , ream upon ream of paper work .
and people like these who in my mind need castrating and sterilising are free to beat poor innocents to death.
yet the judicial system won't proclaim murder which in retrospect it is wether pre meditated or not.
igor with a real bee in his bonnet

Its tragic that no words can describe......but if these people of the child or the children themselves has not been on any register with SS then they are not connected to either case,,,,,,and yes SS do mostly always work in mind that family units are upmost important but in everycase which varies tremendously -best interest of any child is seen as paramount...but often is a case dammed if you do and dammed if you dont..

There is public outcry if its allowed a child remain in a family enviroment who has been harmed by a parent or partner,,,,and theres public outcry if its seen a child would be best removed from one....

God bless them both, may they now be at peace, sunbeams for Jesus.

Crying too Igor ... tis, well ... I am a mother

xxx Shimms xxx

tiny 2 month old RHYS BIGGS beaten to death by his crack addict mother and her waste of space boyfriend .
the estranged father took a mobile phone photo of the poor little mite .
found with 13 broken ribs a broken shoulder, and a fractured arm , two f******g months old .
that i'm sorry to say made me cry , ive seen a lot of horors in my life but this beats all of them .
wich also brings to mind the other poor little tot SanamNasvsarka107 injuries at the hands of her mother and boyfriend and this i know before you howl me down is a not so rare occurence yet the courts and social services (who in the main do a good job )still persist in the adage a child is better of with his or hers mother yeah right .
so please spare a thought for those young innocents whose only crime was to be born
igor