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Ann

Ann Report 17 Oct 2008 14:25

nudging up so you can see what upset bev

Bev

Bev Report 16 Oct 2008 23:29

no i dont take any pillls

Mrs.  Blue Eyes

Mrs. Blue Eyes Report 16 Oct 2008 23:28

Do you have any mild sedatives or Nytol to help you rest Bev, it almost sounds like you are in shock youself you will need to rest if not sleep to help you..

xx

***Julie*Ann***.sprinkling fairydust***

***Julie*Ann***.sprinkling fairydust*** Report 16 Oct 2008 23:24

bev,
make sure you rest
even if you try watching tv,
and like i said if you wana pm me you can

Bev

Bev Report 16 Oct 2008 23:21

i wont be sleeping tonight

Sue in Somerset

Sue in Somerset Report 16 Oct 2008 23:19

I think some people may not have replied simply because any emotive topic can so easily deteriorate into a very nasty slanging match here on GR.

I have tremendous respect for nurses and I have a lot to be thankful for after all the hospital treatment my husband has received over the years. I could tell when I met you Bev that you are a caring person and I am not surprised that this case has affected you so much.

There was a very heated debate on hanging on this site quite a while ago and I stated my opinions on it then. They haven't changed.

What has happened to this poor elderly lady is dreadful and if someone had done this to someone I cared about then I would want to do them some harm in return.

But that would be revenge and we need judgements to be done by those who are not seeking revenge.

Most of us on GR have done enough family and social history to know how severe punishments for even minor crimes were in the past.
If harsh punishments had worked it ought to follow that the past would have been a safer place to live.

I also haven't seen any evidence that capital punishment acts as a deterrent in countries which still use it.

I've no easy solutions to offer but I still can't agree that hanging (or any form of capital punishment) is the answer.

Hoping you get a good night's sleep and thinking of the poor old lady and those who love her.

Sue
x

~Summer Scribe~

~Summer Scribe~ Report 16 Oct 2008 23:18

It's shocking that anyone could do something so horrendous to a defenceless old lady like that. I remember when I was in my late teens, my nanna was burgled while she was upstairs in bed. Fortunately, the little thug didn't go upstairs or get violent, but she never felt safe in her own home again and it took her a long time to feel comfortable. It turned out he had committed a string of similar burglaries and was arrested for aggravated burglary, if I remember right he was under 18 and was given something like 6months in a young offenders institute.

Sentencing in this country is completely out of proportion with the crimes and there are people that never see prison for something like this even though convicted.

I'm not going to make excuses for the little shit, but, there are usually warning signs that have gone unheeded and not always by uncaring parents. I would never use abuse as a reason, because there are plenty of well-adjusted abuse survivors out there and I think it belittles them to blame that. However, the one thing that comes to mind is foetal alcohol syndrome and the way it can affect development of conscience. I am in no way condoning though because there would have been indicators and nothing had been done, had it been done then that poor brave lady would not be in the situation she is.

Bev, I am in awe of the job yourself and people like you do. It must be infuriating and frustrating at times like this.

Mrs.  Blue Eyes

Mrs. Blue Eyes Report 16 Oct 2008 23:01

Bev. hold on in there hun ....xxxx

Ann

Ann Report 16 Oct 2008 23:01

for goodness sake whats it comeing to, are the police doing ANYTHING ABOUT IT

***Julie*Ann***.sprinkling fairydust***

***Julie*Ann***.sprinkling fairydust*** Report 16 Oct 2008 22:58

tell your daughter to keep the phone and the txts, dont delete um
take um to police, demand something be done
they have done nothing wrong

this needs sorting out, they cant live like that,
police will prosecute if they got the mobiles as evidence

i ihope they keep safe the two of them ,
get lifts everywhere

ann

ann Report 16 Oct 2008 22:54

Julie, You know the youth of today. He is getting loads of threats via mobile that he is going to be finished off. My daughter has taken grandaughters phone off of her so she dont recieve any messages. Annie

***Julie*Ann***.sprinkling fairydust***

***Julie*Ann***.sprinkling fairydust*** Report 16 Oct 2008 22:49

how are they both annie

Ann

Ann Report 16 Oct 2008 22:48

bring back flogging, the trouble these days there are no deterants

ann

ann Report 16 Oct 2008 22:48

Bev,dont delete. I felt like you last week when my grandaughters boyfriend got knifed. There was a nurse holding his hand and must of thought like you. Annie

***Julie*Ann***.sprinkling fairydust***

***Julie*Ann***.sprinkling fairydust*** Report 16 Oct 2008 22:45

dont give up bev, push that out of your mind
cos when you wake up in the morning kathleen is gona be the first thing you thinko f and wonder how she is, if shes made it,

ive just had a read of the paper and taht poor poor lady
id wana kill umthe one responsible, if it happened to one of my family
and they have arrested a 15 year old for it,
whats wrong with him,
what did he think he was doing,

next time your working , go back and hold her hand again, she will feel that warmth bev,
she needs it,
i send her --------well what can i say you cant hug her cos shes hurting,
jsut tell her people are thinking of her, and telling her to keep fighting

Uggers

Uggers Report 16 Oct 2008 22:37

Don't delete Bev - course you're upset. I don't think I would be able to handle dealing with a patient who's been through that. It's a good job peole like you can.

Bev

Bev Report 16 Oct 2008 22:34

david i am not starting with you

am just upste thats all

god i wish peeps could see that instead o f thinking the worst

i just need to unload

perhaps i should delete


this was a mistake

Suzanne

Suzanne Report 16 Oct 2008 22:33

oh no a fight is going to start, im out of here. goodnight.x

Uggers

Uggers Report 16 Oct 2008 22:31

Bev, to be fair you have no idea of what I've experienced and seen in my life. I haven't started with anything so don't start on me. I was just explaining why I hadn't responded to your thread.

MrDaff

MrDaff Report 16 Oct 2008 22:30

I have pm'd you Bev

Take care

Love

Daff xxx