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Been reading the trancripts of these fascinating things, and have to wonder at some of the passages. Bear in mind these were written 2,000 years ago and translated from the original, not like the current bible. But I digress...

This passage really grabbed me and put me in mind of the 'God was an Astronaut' series of books by Von Daniken....

'The cherubim bless the image of the Throne-Chariot above the firmament, and they praise the majesty of the fiery firmament beneath the seat of his glory. And between the turning wheels, angels of holiness come and go, as it were a fiery vision of most holy spirits; and about them flow seeming rivulets of fire, like gleaming bronze, a radiance of many gorgeous colors, of marvelous pigments magnificiently mingled.

The Spirits of the Living God move perpetually with the glory of the wonderful Chariot. The small voice of blessing accompanies the tumult as they depart, and on the path of their return they worship the Holy One, Ascending they rise marvelously; settling, they stay still.'

What on earth can that be a description of?

Planets? Comets?

Yep, thats the one. Imprisoned for his beliefs.

Or stealing.

I disremember.

you're doing some reading mate....you been bored????

Studying , TB, studying.

Yes, Christine, but thats his Wiki entry :-)

As we are constantly being told, it is up to us to disprove his theories, not for him to prove them.

I quite like the idea of being descended from Big Zog from the planet Netto in the constellation of Cecil the mighty sheep.

Now it's strange you have posted this.

I have been following the new translations for some time.

I have a real problem with the 'given' translations and the new, modern interpretations.

Take ten scholars give them one incomplete page each and you get ten different translations of the original writings.

Which interpretation you choose depends on your depth of faith I suppose.

Then there is the contemporaneous question? If I was asked to record an event/dictat decades or centuries after the event would I get it right?

http://www.centuryone.com/25dssfacts.html

Link to explain what and where has been found to date.

Sue

Sue, I agree, the translation is the key, I think, and it certainly depends on not only the depth of faith, but the type of faith - I am sure a muslim scholar will translate differently from a christian one.

I think that we will see a time when the entire bible is re-written as scholars come to an agreement on the translations.....

Not at all, Christine, it is delightful to have someone who likes to join in these threads!

It's the missing words that provoke the arguments! Imagine trying to reconstruct a Terry Pratchett book, in 3 ancient languages, with every 8th or so word missing and then half a page!

The translation would be totally biased towards the scholar's beliefs and of course who was paying them!

But some of them are reasonably intact - especially the 'copper' scroll, which gives the locations of all sorts of treasures hidden from the Temple of Jerusalem - was that the Temple of King Solomon?

The copper scroll was literally scrolled and they cut it up to decipher it and

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The text is in Hebrew, which is certainly a known language, but most ancient Hebrew texts that we have are religious in nature, and the Copper Scroll is anything but religious. Most of its vocabulary is simply not found in the Bible or anything else we have from ancient times.

Not only is the vocabulary of the scroll very technical, some of the geographical locations are unknown after so many years, many are too specific and some refer to places that no longer exist. Take some of the following examples:


"In the gutter which is in the bottom of the (rain-water) tank..."


"In the Second Enclosure, in the underground passage that looks east..."


"In the water conduit of [...] the north[ern] reservoir..."

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It reminds me of one of the internet games that ruled some years ago offering a massive cash prize or dimaond if you could solve the intricate and seemingly never ending puzzle. I know I did one...lol

But how good would that be, finding that and then going on a treasure hunt? Its reall life Indiana Jones stuff, isn't it.

:-)

In all honesty I can't believe in the above re flying saucers and ancient uber (ueber cos I don't know where my umlaut is) intelligent beings.

I believe there are UFOs simply because some objects are in flight and unidentified. I keep an open mind on that one.

I am much more interested in the theological studies!

For Eldrick

http://www.usc.edu/dept/LAS/wsrp/educational_site/dead_sea_scrolls/words_moses.shtml

Mmmmm make it up as you go along!

Frøya one of the norsk gods had a boat Skibladner which which when Frøya was finished sailing in it could be folded small enough to fit into a small keather purse carried around his waist
The Slavic Baba Jaga who lived in a hut with chicken legs and ate naughty children.
Each could be interpretated as coming from Space or the auther autheress chewing a little bit too much of the magic mushroom.
Just about all peoples have their mystical writtings, all put down as interesting but along comes the Dead Sea scrolls written in the main in a form of Hebrew almost unknown and we are expected to give them higher status than example rune writtings

I'm sure there are lots of UFO things sneaking around - but I doubt they are from another planet :-)

Joking apart, the distances are too great and there is no rhyme nor reason for alien spaceships to randomly appear and disappear all over the place - and as for abducting people and stealing cattle....


I feel justified in pouring scorn and ridicule on those theories without fear of being reported :-)

I think.

Eldrick just as predicted in an old episode of "Soap" someone was beamed down to his waiting wife.

I love the norse gods. They are my type of Gods. If having a God was compulsory, I would have the old norse ones. Valhalla is a cool place to be and there is definetely something about those valkyries and norns...

Yes, the norse lot are real gods, not namby pamby sandal wearing arran jumper BIll Oddie look alike gods.

Oi

I like Arran jumpers!

If Aliens are visiting our planet they must be extremely more intelligent than we are to be able to travel at such vast speeds to reach us and I can only assume they must view us as merely pets to play with or crush.
Unless they travel at warp speed, lol