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Genealogy - spare a thought.

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Harry

Harry Report 14 Mar 2008 10:31

Just wonder if anyone else is as sentimental as I am when searching.
I too often take time to think about the people I am turning up, - wonderful wedding days; terrible "died young",hopes and dreams. I usually think to myself "god bless you".
To unrake some incident which occurred perhaps 200 years ago, and has never seen the light of day since, seems weird to me - or should I see a trick cyclist?

Happy days

Carole

Carole Report 14 Mar 2008 10:37

Harry I also get sad at what I find. Babies that don't live long. Children loosing parents while young. Or siblings passing in their teens. Young men going to war....it goes on xx

Harry

Harry Report 14 Mar 2008 10:43

Thanks for the replies. I should have mentioned that I don,t mind turning up my own family, but if they are the same name, but unrelated, I feel I,m intruding where I shouldn,t. bit irratioinal I suppose.

Happy days

 Sue In Yorkshire.

Sue In Yorkshire. Report 14 Mar 2008 11:15

Yes I feel the same ,when I found that my great grandmother died in Childbirth and the baby died 6 months later.

then my uncle died in WW1 over in Belguim,I Cried buckets.
Did so much research on where my uncle died and found his grave,I am determined to visit his grave this year.

Desperate Housewife ♥

Desperate Housewife ♥ Report 14 Mar 2008 11:52

Harry I feel the same, I have shed a tear or two when discovering children dying young and often wondered what a difficult life our ancesters had. I always feel a little emotional whenever I receive a birth, marriage or death certificate through the post.
You are not irrational just human.

Karen x

xx Chelle xx

xx Chelle xx Report 14 Mar 2008 11:59

Im the same , ive spent the last 8 yrs wondering about my grandmother who died when my dad was 2yrs old , just in the past fortnight i have searched frantically to see where she is laid to rest and thanks to a gentlman on Rootschat went to the graveyard and looked for her grave and sent me photos which left me in tears , im going to visit her at the end of the month :)

More tears then lol

Chelle

maggiewinchester

maggiewinchester Report 14 Mar 2008 12:12

I'm afraid I had to laugh at the death of one of my ancestors. He was in his 70's and fell down the stairs of a pub, having been to a 'Buffs' meeting!
I went to the pub in question, and the lovely landlord explained the layout of the pub at the time - 'smoking' area had a hatch to the bar, which was kept closed unless ordering drink (why couldn't this government have insisted on that instead of banning smoking?) and he took me upstairs and showed me the room (complete with spyhole in the door) where the meeting was held!!

maggie

Desperate Housewife ♥

Desperate Housewife ♥ Report 14 Mar 2008 12:16

Maggie, hope you don't mind me asking but what is a Buffs meeting.

Karen x

♥ Kitty the Rubbish Cook ♥

♥ Kitty the Rubbish Cook ♥ Report 14 Mar 2008 12:23

Just wondering if his death had any link to the saying "Steady the Buffs"?

I get all emotional too.................we have it really easy today compared to a lot of our ancestors, don't we?

Yet we still moan.....................but they probably did as well! :))

xx

Val

Val Report 14 Mar 2008 12:34

I feel the same as I have just found my gr aunts aunt was we think threw out a window in a flat her husband was arrested for it she had 2 boys 3 and 1yrs old and she was 22yrs old, a lady is going to find the paper to see what he did get charged with as he did 4yrs in Peterhead in Aberdeen in 1891

maggiewinchester

maggiewinchester Report 14 Mar 2008 12:43

Hi Karen.
It's the 'Royal and Ancient Order of Buffaloes' - bit like a working man's Masons. Many of my ancestors belonged to either that and/or the Oddfellows, and Ancient Order of Forestors, as it was the only way they could get insurance, sick pay etc. They used to pay a weekly subscription.

Oh, BTW, according to the newspaper report, ancestor had 'been imbibing of ale' before tumbling down the stairs lol

maggie

♥ Kitty the Rubbish Cook ♥

♥ Kitty the Rubbish Cook ♥ Report 14 Mar 2008 12:43

The Buffs were the Royal East Kent Regiment and I googled to find out where "steady the buffs" came from

Found this
"This famous cry has been rumoured by many to have been uttered on the field of battle, but it was actually born on the parade grounds of a garrison.

It comes from when the 2nd Battalion was stationed at Malta in 1858 and were quartered with the 21st Royal (North British) Fusiliers. Adjutant Cotter of The Buffs, a Scot who had formerly served in the Royal Fusiliers as a Sergeant Major, would not brook any disarray on the parade ground from his raw recruits, shouting "Steady, The Buffs! The Fusiliers are watching you!"

This greatly amused the Fusiliers and they called out “Steady The Buffs!” on the slightest provocation, first in Malta and later whenever the two battalions met from then on. The phrase caught on and was soon shouted whenever The Buffs marched by. It then passed into common usage, even appearing in Rudyard Kipling's novel Soldiers Three (1888) and his play Pity Poor Mama."

Val................what a terrible thing to happen!

xx

Jax in Wales

Jax in Wales Report 14 Mar 2008 12:43

Harry I think the sentimentality comes with the territory of what we genealogists do

We put so much into finding out all the information we can about our ancestors and through our efforts are bringing the memories of them back to life.

When I was researching my husbands tree I found his 2 x great aunt after she had married and her 12 children, was so upset when I found only a few short months after, the death of 9 of those children who died just days apart all from dyptheria. I was so upset by this as was my husband I managed to trace their grave (they were all buried together) to the small village church that his own grandparents are buried in, now each time to visit his grandparents graves we always stop and pay our respects to those children who died before their lives began.

Jax xxxx

maggiewinchester

maggiewinchester Report 14 Mar 2008 12:46

Hi Val - 2 different 'Buffs' LOL

maggie

Desperate Housewife ♥

Desperate Housewife ♥ Report 14 Mar 2008 12:48

Thanks Maggie, I love the phrase "imbibing of ale" classic, lol.

Karen x

♥ Kitty the Rubbish Cook ♥

♥ Kitty the Rubbish Cook ♥ Report 14 Mar 2008 12:55

Ooeerrrr too many buffs then :))))

xx

Kate

Kate Report 14 Mar 2008 13:27

I get like that. I was just following up a distant twig last night - found a man who married twice, had five kids with each wife.

I was up to 1871 and found they had this little girl, Elizabeth Ann, aged 1. I followed the father up in 1881 - knew he'd remarried and I'd found the death of the first wife. First thing I thought, was "Where's Elizabeth?" and I had a bad feeling for some reason. Sure enough, I looked for a death and she died within a couple of months of the 1871 census.

I do think it shapes your view of the family. I found my 3xgreat grandparents on the 1841 and 1851 census, they had six children. When I got to Preston records office, I started to unravel the mystery. There were really ten children - one died aged about 9, one died either aged a few weeks or five years (still have to follow that up), another died at five weeks, then finally they had twins - one died at eleven months, six weeks later the other one died.

It does bring it to life when you can find things like this, a lot more so than just finding them on a census, I think.

Harry

Harry Report 14 Mar 2008 14:10

So much for the "good old days".

Happy days

Val

Val Report 14 Mar 2008 22:10

Yes found the newspaper it was in and yes he used to hit her and kick her once I get better copy of what he did I will put it on here

Redharissa

Redharissa Report 14 Mar 2008 22:36

I always feel a pang of sadness or dread when a 1901 census household contains boys born in the 1890s.

So many of them subsequently turn up on the War Grave site or, if they survived, on the WW1 pensions records.