General Chat

Twerp

You've 'checked the other tree'....you mean the other person has done the work going back to 1696 and you thought ooh I'll have some of that. And I couldnt care less either what you think Matthew, I wont be here after the 8th.

I think if you reread this thread from the beginning Matthew you will find that it was your comment which sounded alarm bells.

The adding of relevant/useful information from one tree to another is what we all do to one extent or another but just pasting and copying has disadvantages if done without caution.

Firstly from your point of view it might mean adding hundreds of ancestors at a go and you would have to trust that the researcher did it carefully and used good source material. If you are sure of that then it is OK.

Secondly from the donor's point of view (and perhaps not just this one but any others you may find in future) I really think you'd have to be careful because along with places and dates of birth you may end up copying sensitive details about living people.

Taking the core, as you put it, is fine if you are sure it is yours too. Others have shared with me. But on the first page you sounded very much as if you didn't care how much of your contact's tree you were about to copy.

We are simply warning you that if you do that to someone who isn't expecting it then you are not going to win any popularity contests!

I'm not sure how long you have been coming onto these boards and reading messages but if you had been a regular for any reasonable length of time then you'd have heard similar discussions on numerous occasions.

I am normally happy to defend people with thousands in their tree. I have often argued that people with huge trees are not necessarily "name collectors" as they tend to be called and I don't like that term.

If you don't care at all what any of us think then I might be prepared to make an exception in your case.

Sue

wow! ive really started something here haha! a name collector? LOL.. isnt that what trees are for - collecting names! Anyway - Ive checked this other tree quite well now and it has my mother's side going all the way back to 1696!!... where it branches off to other families won't be needed - but the core is needed!

There is a way of pasting and copying details from tree to tree... if anyone wants details how - mail me.

To Gill (from Staffs) - add those names - dont worry what this lot thinks !!

Well now we're all detectives here, my theory is...........He is adopted and has found his birth parents , and claiming the tree for himself ? any others ?

Hi Claire,
Just read through again, I think you are right!!!

Kitty no don't delete .

From Matthews reply to RS on page 1 he intends to be a "name collector"

There are name collecters on here of that I have know doubt, but I think the majority of people are honest and unless it is obvious then we have to give the benifit of doubt. Gill

ged com them

Maybe Matthew has a relative who has info and they are going to share their trees????

I did read it through and Matthew was asking about adding one tree to his own................I just feel it unfair to jump on him and assume he is a name collector without knowing the full facts.

That's all....................no offence meant to anyone.

If it's going to cause aggro, then I will delete my posts and sign off.

xx

with the other persons permission

you can ged com two trees togther

gr will do this for you

If you read this whole thread you will see that Matthew has said he wants to merge complete trees with his.

He does need to realise that if he does precisely that he will annoy a number of people on this site.

If someone is one of my contacts and they uploaded my entire tree, I would be surprised but it wouldn't cause any harm because I have no living people or sensitive information on my GR tree.

However I am frequently allowed to view trees on which people have put their entire family, small children and living relations with incredible detail. If such a tree is shared and the information passed on, then the original tree owner has no idea how much further this information may spread.

In months or weeks time the details of their children could appear on trees of people totally unconnected who just happen to be another contact of the entire tree copier.

I have absolutely no objection to anyone creating their tree in what ever way they like so long as it causes no harm to anyone else. But if someone can merge another person's tree with a click then I'd bet they would not follow that up by studying every individual entry in detail and make sure that no-one is living or has personal details recorded.

Just be careful folks

Sue

That's a good point Gill..................there are two sides to every story and I hope I would never judge another person on the basis of one question.

What if he isn't though..................how hurt will he be feeling now?

xx

Maybe he's attempting to create his own one-world tree. pmsl.

Hi all.
Can I just say without upsetting anyone, a couple of weeks ago a very dear friend and contact emailed me to say she had added some stuff to her tree I might be interested in, so I took a look and sure enough there was a few names and dates I didn't have, so started adding them to my tree, then thought could I copy & paste to be quicker, but couldn't do it, so put a thread up on tips board asking how to, I got the biggest onslought about coping other peoples trees, I was so upset I still havn't added the names, so things arn't always what they seem. Can I just say I have given her as much info as she has given me.
Gill

Building up a tree for yourself by adding entire trees belonging to others is somewhat pointless.

If someone has let you see their tree then the normal thing to do is to thank them and ask if they mind you copying relevant parts of their research.

While opening a tree tends to make us presume that someone is happy to share, it is possible for trees to be accidentally opened and it is polite to double check.

When using someone else's research you would be wise to use it only as a guide to your own research. There are many cases of sloppy trees online and of people deciding someone is an ancestor wrongly.

I made a contact with a really nice lady a few years ago who had spent years researching her tree. We exchanged information and her tree matched my ancestors........the problem was they weren't her ancestors!!! She had opted for the wrong one of two women of the same name.

It's OK to collect details of people who are unrelated or distantly related to you if you are doing a One Name Study or an area/village study or if you fancy looking at what happened to the descendants of one of your ancestral aunts and uncles perhaps, but you will probably really annoy someone if you are related to them but add all their spouse's ancestors to your tree.

Then the worst faux pas would be if you add any living individuals to your tree. If any contact has got details of their living relations on their GR tree do not under any circumstances add them to your own as that is against the rules on GR and is very inconsiderate.

Sue

Matthew Whipps

Has anyone opened there tree to a Mathew? Annie

Who is Matthew? ?????