General Chat

in truth not so much a debate as a 'discussion' lol...since crime and punishment seem to be the topics of the day.......( go on Keith add to this?!)

Does anyone believe in the possibility of 'rehabilitation'? the 'leopard changing its spots' ?

I am not offering an opinion just yet lol...nor am I talking about anyone in particular ( or any type of crime in particular).

Rose xx

you are one brave lady Rose..................lol

a lot of prisoners pretend to find god

just to get early realese its a con

a pedo is always a pedo

even if he has stopped offending

the pretentials always there

It depends on the crime.
only a qualified psychologist could really know the answer.

In my opinion there are some criminals who are beyond help and who need to be locked up for life.

mr who deleted.posted twice.

A good question Rose, but difficult to answer

perhaps a new offender could be rehabilitated but child abusers and child murderers along with a few other really nasties would never change ...
...in my opinion.

think it has been proved to work for just a few, but largely i am doubtful !

LOL I was off googling for re-offending statistics but if someone gets some before i can please add....!

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People like pedophiles should not be released, in my opinion, Of course they are going to say they are cured, to get out and do it again!
I am sick of hearing that a known pedo who has been released has ended up murdering a child or children!

One very obvious example.....John Bird who founded the Big Issue.....

"Bird was born in Notting Hill, London in 1946. As a child he experienced homelessness and spent several years in an orphanage. By his twenties he had served several prison sentences for theft.[1]

In September 1991 he launched The Big Issue. He is currently president of The Big Issue Foundation Board of Trustees.[2] It started as a local London venture, but expanded with specific editions and services to other British cities, and then to other countries.

In June 1995 Bird was awarded the MBE for ‘services to homeless people’ and in 2006 he received the prestigious Beacon Fellowship Prize for his energy and originality in raising awareness of homelessness and his support of homeless communities worldwide."

ok it worked with John Bird


can you name some more Rose

Leslie Grantham......murder
Ricky Tomlin
Johnny Cash

As mentioned by Heather..

There are many people who have served a spell 'at her majesty's pleasure' and then come out to not re-offend. Me Included.

Oh sorry i got caught for speeding . 36 in 30 zone . .does that count. lol

Rio

two that I can't name here...personally known to me many years ago now, both imprisoned for armed robbery....( not same place or time) both turned life around following release....

will find some more in the 'public domain ' Keith

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me too rio think i was 35 in a 30 zone'''' hardened criminal i am

have to say my ex did time for grievous bodily harm and attempted murder in his young days, but has never offended since.

Latest figures show the number of offenders who have previously served prison sentences has increased over the last 15 years, from 51% in 1992 to 67%.

It depends on what crime they were sentanced for, a murderer may never kill again but I think child abusers and rapists are more inclined to reoffend because of the chemical urges that make them act the way they do. In general I don't see much point in locking up the so called white collar criminals, they should repay the community certainly but they are not a danger to the community and locking them away seems a little heavy handed...that is the trouble with our justice system (in my opinion anyway) we put harsher penalties in place for white collar crime than many violent offenders

The reason there are so many crimes and problems in this country is due to the Do Gooders that exist. Light sentencing, mollycoddling people in prison etc etc..

Maybe a thought should be spared for the parents & family of James Bulger for example. His murderers both now released from prison, living their lives, sadly for James, his was snuffed out by these animals...!

Sorry not deserting the thread...just had to nip out...

Whirley...I don't think anyone will ever forget Jamie Bulger, nor any of the child victims of Brady and Hindley...

looking at those statistics from a different perspective though...that means one third of prisoners do NOT re-offend.....
1 in 3.....would be interesting to know the type of crime, age, etc of that 1 in 3...?

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ohh , Rose . Hmmmm,
Well firstly I think every prisoner who serves their time and is released is already given the benefit of the doubt .
Secondly if there are such a large amount of re-offenders , perhaps we should be looking at the sentences that are handed out , ie are they too light? not at the individual .
Prison is supposed to be a deterrent after all.
Kim xxx