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Hi I’m looking for anyone to advise on where peters street was in ash over Derbyshire
in 1851
Checked ordnance survey map any ideas please

Ashover

Try.....

http://www.ashover.org/

Try looking at previous and following census pages for names of nearby roads.

EDITED

I've just scrolled through 21 census pages for ED 1c Ashover and there isn't a single 'street' recorded. Perhaps I'm missing something

Who is the person you've found living there?

There's more than one batch of Ashover records in 1851 on Ancestry.
1a - 1f, if not more.

Go back to image one of the ED you're looking at, and see what the description of the district is. That should give you an idea.of the location

I don't see Peters Street mentioned on page 1 of any of the batches 1a-1f.

Nor do I - and, to be honest, I don't think 'street' sounds likely for the place in the mid-1800's

Although, by looking at prevous and subsequent addresses on the census pages, one can sometimes tie in an address with the enumerator's route.

I wonder if it's been mis-transcribed

Vena -

what is the person's name, please?

John hollingsworth born 1817

The address in 1851 looks like Gladwin Mark. Born 1813

The only one of that name with an address of 'Peters' is in Manchester

Also, no ‘s’ in the surname for the one in Ashover

Yes, I agree, ErikaH.

Hollingworth 1813, not Hollingsworth 1817, and the address is Gladwin Mark.

(Some other years' censuses do show his YOB as 1817.)

The answer to your original question, Vena -
Peters Street wasn't anywhere in Ashover.

Now I'm on my PC instead of my i-pad, I can C&P

1851 England, Wales & Scotland Census
Gladwin Mark, Ashover, Chesterfield, Derbyshire, England

John Hollingworth Head Married Male 38 1813 Farmer 280 A Employing 2 Labourers Ashover, Derbyshire, England
Jane Hollingworth Wife Married Female 29 1822 - Ashover, Derbyshire, England
Emily Hollingworth Daughter - Female 3 1848 - Hasland, Derbyshire, England
Betsy Ann Hollingworth Daughter - Female 1 1850 - Hasland, Derbyshire, England
Richard Hollingworth Brother Unmarried Male 23 1828 Ag Labourer Ashover, Derbyshire, England
John Dunn Servant Unmarried Male 21 1830 Farm Servt Ashover, Derbyshire, England
Esther Bown Servant Unmarried Female 15 1836 House Servant Ashover, Derbyshire, England


Same chap
1841 England, Wales & Scotland Census
Peaseen Hurst, Ashover, Chesterfield, Derbyshire, England

John Hollingworth Male 25 1816 Derbyshire, England
Richard Hollingworth Male 14 1827 Derbyshire, England
Isaac Bown Male 25 1816 Derbyshire, England
Ellen Bown Female 20 1821 Derbyshire, England
Joseph Bown Male 1 1840 Derbyshire, England

Different one? Or counted twice?

1841 England, Wales & Scotland Census
Collumbes House, Ashover, Chesterfield, Derbyshire, England

William Hollingworth Male 29 1812 Derbyshire, England
William Hollingworth Male 65 1776 Derbyshire, England
John Hollingworth Male 24 1817 Derbyshire, England
Ann Hollingworth Female 24 1817 Derbyshire, England
Bessy Hollingworth Female 0 1841 Derbyshire, England
William Bunting Male 53 1788 Derbyshire, England

PM from Vena:

"Hollingsworth family William .. 1851 then seem to have disappeared in 1841 it’s stumped me too thankyou for replying "



Vena, I'm confused. You said his name was John.

Anyway, there's still no Peters Street in Ashover.

Please can you copy/paste the record you've found?

Or tell us who else is in his household?

Shot in the dark - awaiting feedback from poster. On here, please, Vena, not by PM

1851 England, Wales & Scotland Census
Peters Street, St Peters, Derby, Derbyshire, England

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
William Hollingworth Head Married Male 49 1802 Gardener Breadsall, Derbyshire, England
Mary Hollingworth Wife Married Female 50 1801 - Mickleover, Derbyshire, England
Catherine Hollingworth Daughter Unmarried Female 24 1827 - Derbyshire, England
William Hollingworth Son Unmarried Male 19 1832 Gardener Derbyshire, England

Same family in 1841

Row Ditch Toll Gate House, Mackworth, Belper, Derbyshire, England

William Hollingworth Male 40 1801 Derbyshire, England Toll Collector
Mary Hollingworth Female 45 1796 Derbyshire, England
Catherine Hollingworth Female 14 1827 Derbyshire, England
James Hollingworth Male 12 1829 Derbyshire, England
William Hollingworth Male 10 1831 Derbyshire, England

Thankyou all so much think I’ve misread the peasaen hurst as peters street
I really appreciate all your help it totally threw me and it is definitely who we are looking for

He was at Peaseen Hurst in 1841, which is the census you couldn't find.

In 1851, the census you were asking about, he was at Gladwin Mark.

However, I'm glad you're happy with the outcome.

Thanks again everyone ... I can’t seem to find a baptism on William Hollingsworth, in 1841 census, the William living at peaseen hurst farm . Can anyone help with it please x

Vena, you need to read the census records carefully.

The man at Peaseen Hurst in 1841 was John, not William.

Is that the one you want the baptism record for (if we can find it) ?

I’m looking for the baptism of William Hollingsworth please aged 65 in 1841 in census records he lived at rattle ashover .. just gone totally off track with him going back earlier