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Hi Everyone

I am still very confused as to my great grandfather James Webb.


He was supposedly born in 1860 at Weybridge Surrey (plz see census below) where he was 4 months old.


1861 England Census
about James Webb
Name: James Webb
Age: 4 Mo
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1860
Relation: Son
Father's Name: William
Mother's Name: Susanh
Gender: Male
Where born: Weybridge, Surrey, England

Civil Parish: Weybridge
County/Island: Surrey
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage: View Image

Registration district: Chertsey
Sub registration district: Walton
ED, institution, or vessel: 8
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 58
Household Members: Name Age
William Webb 35
Susanh Webb 27
John Webb 11
William Webb 8
Edward Webb 4
Eliza Webb 2
James Webb 4 Mo
Susanah Pearce 55
I have never been able to find any births for this family only baptisms (all the children were baptised on the same day )
Also on this census it says British Subjects where born is tho its the only census that says this why is that?


but my grandfather totally dissapears until he appears again in 1906 when he marries my great nanna Alice Hooton in Nottingham.


On thier marriage cert it says his fathers name is William Webb and he was an Engineer (so i think it def is the right family im chasing) im just totally flumaxed as to where he dissapears to. I can't even find him in the 1901 census or the 1911 its so strange does anyone have any ideas plz? I would be so very grateful

Many thanks
Angie
xxxx

QUOTE but my grandfather totally dissapears until he appears again in 1906 when he marries my great nanna Alice Hooton in Nottingham.UNQUOTE


Was he a BACHELOR in 1906

If he was an engineer he could have been abroad

Hi Fairthorn xxx

Yes it states that he is a bachelor on the marriage certificate it states his father is an engineer.

Thank u for replying xxxxxxxxx

This is the marriage ref Married Jul Aug Sep 1906 Vol 7b page 708

I do have the certificate as well (tho its upstairs and my hubbys asleep lol so can't get hold of it tut)

LOL

& the age he gave would tie in with 1860 ?

he would be 46 ..............but late for a first marriage

PS what was James' occupation

If you do not know I should wait til tomorrow

CHEERS

my great nan fibbed about her age on the marriage certificate said she was 24 but really was only 19 and pregnant with my grandad (they lived next door to each other raised an eyebrow when I saw that lol)

Think he followed in his dads footsteps and was an engineer too thought I might have found him aged 10 at a boarding school but think the birth place was wrong (didnt say weybridge said somewhere else in Surrey) then thought I might have found him again on a ship aged around 17ish but not too sure he's so flipping elusive lol (wonder where I get that from now lol)

Thank u anyway Fairthorn think ill leave it again tonight and get my cert in the morn when grumpys gone to work lol.

Nite sweet dreams and thank u very much appreciated xxxxxxxxx

Strange like you say

the 1861 census does not usually put BRITISH SUBJECT ??
PERHAPS James was the ONLY one born in the UK !



JUST THE 1861 FROM ANOTHER WEBSITE

WEBB, William Head Married M 35 1826 Engineer
British Subject
WEBB, Susanah Wife Married F 27 1834
British Subject
WEBB, John Son M 11 1850 Scholar
British Subject
WEBB, William Son M 8 1853 Scholar
British Subject
WEBB, Edward Son M 4 1857 Scholar
British Subject
WEBB, Eliza Daughter F 2 1859
British Subject
WEBB, James Son M 0 (4M) 1861
Weybridge
Surrey
PEARCE, Susanah Visitor Widow F 55 1806
Polland <<<<<<<<<<<<<Portland SEE VICTORIA'S POST
RG number:
RG09 Piece:
421 Folio:
119 Page:
16

Registration District:
Chertsey Sub District:
1 Walton EnumerationDistrict:
8 Ecclesiastical Parish:

Civil Parish:
Weybridge Municipal Borough:
Address:
Three Tunns, Weybridge County:
Surrey

I would say that he was working overseas maybe South Africa or India, need to search passenger lists.

When and where was your father born, does that give a clue??

Have you found any of the family (ie your grandfather's brothers and sisters) in 1901 or 1911 which may give more info as to where they were born?

it's PORTLAND not Poland

the "Lousia" in the 1871 census ws born Isle of Portland dorset,

Name: William Webb
Age: 44
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1827
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Louisa
Gender: Male
Where born: London, Middlesex, England

Louisa Webb
Age: 39
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1832
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: William
Gender: Female
Where born: Isle of Portland, Dorset, England

1891
Name: William Webb
Age: 64
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1827
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Susanna
Gender: Male
Where born: London, Middlesex, England

Civil Parish: Iver
Ecclesiastical parish: St Peter
Town: Iver
County/Island: Buckinghamshire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: Eton
Sub registration district: Iver
ED, institution, or vessel: 7
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
William Webb 64
Susanna Webb 57
Alice Webb 20
Agness Webb 17


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Source Citation: Class: RG12; Piece: 1133; Folio 100; Page 25; GSU roll: 6096243.

THE VISITOR ON THE 1851 ( SHOWN ON 1861 WITH THE WEBBS )


PEARCE, Abel Head Married M 48 1803 Stone Luarryman
Portland
Dorset
PEARCE, Susanna Wife Married F 43 1808
Portland
Dorset
PEARCE, Elizabeth Daughter Unmarried F 15 1836
Portland
Dorset
PEARCE, Susanna Daughter Unmarried F 13 1838
Portland
Dorset
PEARCE, William Son M 10 1841 Scholar
Portland
Dorset
PEARCE, Catharine Daughter F 8 1843 Scholar
Portland
Dorset
PEARCE, Robert Son M 5 1846
Portland
Dorset
PEARCE, Mary Daughter F 2 1849
Portland
Dorset
RG number:
HO107 Piece:
1857 Folio:
503 Page:
11

Registration District:
Weymouth Sub District:
Portland EnumerationDistrict:
1C Ecclesiastical Parish:
St George

Civil Parish:
Portland Municipal Borough:
Address:
32, Reforne Street, Portland County:
Dorsetshire

What is your grandads details? was he the only one born before 1911 census? Perhaps the area they were living in hasn't been transcribed yet.

1851 ? William is an enginner
Name: William Webb
Age: 24
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1827
Relation: Son
Spouse's Name: Susanna
Father's Name: John
Mother's Name: Elizabeth
Gender: Male
Where born: London, England

Civil Parish: Hampton
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England

Name: Susanna Webb
Age: 17
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1834
Relation: Daughter-in-law
Spouse's Name: William
Gender: Female
Where born: Isle of Portland, Dorset, England

Civil Parish: Hampton
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England

Name: John Webb
Age: 1
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1850
Relation: Grandson
Father's Name: William
Mother's Name: Susanna
Gender: Male
Where born: Isle of Portland, Dorset, England

Civil Parish: Hampton
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England
Name: John Webb
Age: 49
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1802
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Elizabeth
Gender: Male
Where born: Padbury, Buckinghamshire, England

Civil Parish: Hampton
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England

Name: Elizabeth Webb
Age: 47
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1804
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: John
Gender: Female
Where born: Albury, Surrey, England

Civil Parish: Hampton
County/Island: Middlesex
Name: John Webb
Age: 26
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1825
Relation: Son
Father's Name: John
Mother's Name: Elizabeth
Gender: Male
Where born: London, England

Civil Parish: Hampton
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England
Name: Elenor Warr
Age: 78
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1773
Relation: Aunt
Gender: Female
Where born: Blakesley, Nottinghamshire, England

Civil Parish: Hampton
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England

Got to go out but 1881
Name: William Webb
Age: 54
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1827
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Susanna
Gender: Male
Where born: London, Middlesex, England

Civil Parish: Isleworth
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England

Street address: Hanworth Road 11
Condition as to marriage: Married
Education:

Employment status: View Image
Occupation: Practical Engineer E M Maker

Registration district: Brentford
Sub registration district: Isleworth
ED, institution, or vessel: 9
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
William Webb 54
Susanna Webb 46
Henrietta Webb 13
Angess Webb 7

Hi Everyone xxxxxxxxxxx

Thank u all for your replies.

Thats another weird thing ive tracked all of them (my great grandfathers parents and siblings through out the census's) but he simply dissapeared!!!!!!!

cant find him on the 1911 census or the 1901 census neither can I find my grand dad on the 1911 census despite him being born in 1907 or his mother!!!!!!!!! (tho I do have my great nan on the 1901 census and she is living with her father in lodgings with people whom witnessed her marriage 5 years later tho at a different address that is on the marriage cert)

its just so weird and I can't understand why they would say they were british subjects when ive managed to track them before that!!!!!!!! very strange lol


I can't find his death either grrrrrrrrrr thought I had found it in 1924 but he turned out to be the wrong James Webb.

Thank u all for your help i really do appreciate it xxxxxxxxxx looks like ill have to shelve my Webb's again for a little while (boohoo lol for the 3rd time now tut lol)

what is grandad (1907) name?

birth index for 1st son
Name: John Webb
Year of Registration: 1850
Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
District: Weymouth (To 1958)
County: Dorset
Volume: 8
Page: 129

Name: James Webb
Year of Registration: 1861
Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
District: Chertsey
County: Surrey
Volume: 2a
Page: 22
could have been registered in Jan having been born late Dec.

1911
HOUSEHOLD WEBB ALICE F 1887 24 Nottingham Nottinghamshire
is this her son

HOUSEHOLD WEBB HARRY M 1907 4 Nottingham Nottinghamshire

Also when you search
Name James
surname Webb
Residentual place Nottingham
Other person first name Alice
you get this ??
HOUSEHOLD WEBB JAMES M 1860 51 Sheffield Yorkshire West Riding

so might be worth opening her transcript or image

Hi Janice

ty so much xxxx

my grandads name was John herny Arthur Webb born 1907 nottingham
tho weirdly enough dad told me his dads name was Harry !!!!

also everyone thought my dads name was Harry all his friends call him that it was a sort of nickname even tho he was born as frederick henry so maybe
I did use credits for them above but it says she is single? so i didnt know whether it was my grandad and great nan.

I have also seen that Weymouth entry but as im really rubbish at geography wasnt sure if chertsey was the right place as it says on the census was born at Weybridge is this the same place?

thank u so very much for all your help im driving myself nuts wish i could pop up to heaven just for a hour n question them all lol

HI Hooch

you can check places on www.multimap.com and also
http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/index.html

Weybridge is in Surrey and Chertsey is right next door
Weymouth is a seaside town in Dorset miles away.