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17 Jan 2008 01:03 |
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For Arthur Chetwynd born 1874 Baddesley Ensor warwickshire
James Chetwynd born 1835 Baddesley Ensor
Henry Chetwynd born 1829 Baddesley Ensor
They are all brothers born to Edward & Mary (not to sure on the Mary) Have the 1881 for Arthur & I think James (if wife is called jane possibly born Annie Jane Parker)
Thanks deb x
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KathleenBell
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17 Jan 2008 01:06 |
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This is the only Arthur I can find:-
Name: Arthur Chetwynd Age: 26 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1875 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Emily Gender: Male Where born: Dordon, Warwickshire, England Civil Parish: Polesworth Ecclesiastical parish: Polesworth St Editha Town: Freasley and Hall End County/Island: Warwickshire Country: England Street address: Hall End
Occupation: Coal Miner (Hewer)
Condition as to marriage: Married
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Employment status: View Image Registration district: Atherstone Sub-registration district: Atherstone ED, institution, or vessel: 7 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 205 Household Members: Name Age
Arthur Chetwynd 26 Emily Chetwynd 28
Source Citation: Class: RG13; Piece: 2897; Folio: 109; Page: 36.
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KathleenBell
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17 Jan 2008 01:09 |
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Is this James? :-
Name: James Chetwynd Senr. Age: 66 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1835 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Jane Gender: Male Where born: Baddesley Ensor, Warwickshire, England Civil Parish: Baddesley Ensor Ecclesiastical parish: Baddeslet Ensor St Nicholas Town: Baddesley Ensor County/Island: Warwickshire Country: England Street address: Crow Hill
Occupation: Coal Hewer
Condition as to marriage: married
Education:
Employment status: View Image Registration district: Atherstone Sub-registration district: Atherstone ED, institution, or vessel: 5 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 25 Household Members: Name Age
James Chetwynd 66 Jane Chetwynd 65 Sydney Chetwynd 21
Source Citation: Class: RG13; Piece: 2897; Folio: 57; Page: 5.
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SylviaInCanada
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17 Jan 2008 01:11 |
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Deb,
If you have your dates correct, they can't all be brothers!
Henry (1829) and James (1835) could be brothers, but surely not Arthur born ca. 1875?!
sylvia
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KathleenBell
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17 Jan 2008 01:12 |
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I can't find Henry.
I doubt whether they are all brothers if one was born 1828 and one 1874.
Kath. x
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Debbie
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17 Jan 2008 01:12 |
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Sorry I correct myself Arthur is the nephew of the other 2 , Arthur's father is Peter Chetwynd 1826 Baddesley Deb x
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SylviaInCanada
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17 Jan 2008 01:16 |
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James in 1851
Name: James Chetwynd Age: 16 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1835 Relation: Son Father's Name: Edward Mother's Name: Mary Gender: Male Where born: Baddesley, Warwickshire, England Civil Parish: Baddesley Ensor County/Island: Warwickshire Country: England Registration district: Atherstone Sub-registration district: Atherstone ED, institution, or vessel: 5 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 140 Household Members: Name Age Charles Chetwynd 19 b.ca 1832, Baddesley, Coal Miner Edward Chetwynd 64 b.ca 1787, Baddesley, Coal Miner James Chetwynd 16 Coal Miner Mary Chetwynd 62 b.ca 1789, Baddesley
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17 Jan 2008 01:22 |
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1841 Census
Name: Edward Chatwin Age: 55 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1786 Gender: Male Where born: Warwickshire, England Civil Parish: Baddesley Ensor Hundred: Hemlingford (Tamworth Division) County/Island: Warwickshire Country: England Registration district: Atherstone Sub-registration district: Atherstone Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Charles Chatwin 8 b.ca 1833, Warwickshire Edward Chatwin 55 Coal Miner Henry Chatwin 12 b.ca 1829, Warwicks James Chatwin 6 b.ca 1835, Warwicks Mary Chatwin 50 b.ca 1791, Warwicks Peter Chatwin 15 b.ca 1826, Warwicks
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17 Jan 2008 01:32 |
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1861 Census
James
Name: James Chetwynd Age: 26 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1835 Relation: Son Spouse's Name: Jane Mother's Name: Mary Gender: Male Where born: Baddesley Ensor, Warwickshire, England Civil Parish: Baddesley Ensor County/Island: Warwickshire Country: England Registration district: Atherstone Sub-registration district: Atherstone ED, institution, or vessel: 6 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 135 Household Members: Name Age Emma Chetwynd 2 Mo b.ca 1861, Baddesley, Granddaughter James Chetwynd 26 Coal Miner Jane Chetwynd 25 b.ca 1836, Baddesley, Daughter-in-law Mary Chetwynd 71 b.ca 1790, Old Hill, Worcestershire, Widow, Head
Next door is William Chetwynd b. ca 1819 and his family. Is he any connection to your family??
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Debbie
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17 Jan 2008 01:34 |
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Kath is Sydney son or grandson
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SylviaInCanada
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17 Jan 2008 01:35 |
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Deb,
Have you seen this ...... the children of Edward Chetwynd and Mary, all born in Baddesley, from the Mormon site
AMELIA CHETWYND - International Genealogical Index Gender: Female Christening: 19 FEB 1815 Baddesley Ensor, Warwick, England 2. PATIENCE CHETWYND - International Genealogical Index Gender: Female Christening: 23 NOV 1817 Baddesley Ensor, Warwick, England 3. JOSEPH CHETWYND - International Genealogical Index Gender: Male Christening: 15 JUN 1820 Baddesley Ensor, Warwick, England 4. ELIZA. CHETWYND - International Genealogical Index Gender: Female Christening: 10 SEP 1812 Baddesley Ensor, Warwick, England 5. JAMES CHETWYND - International Genealogical Index Gender: Male Christening: 16 MAY 1835 Baddesley Ensor, Warwick, England 6. JOHN CHETWYND - International Genealogical Index Gender: Male Christening: 20 APR 1823 Baddesley Ensor, Warwick, England 7. CHARLES CHETWYND - International Genealogical Index Gender: Male Christening: 01 JAN 1832 Baddesley Ensor, Warwick, England 8. EDWARD CHETWYM - International Genealogical Index Gender: Male Christening: 01 APR 1827 Grendon, Warwick, England
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17 Jan 2008 01:35 |
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Sylvia very probably he is
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17 Jan 2008 01:38 |
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I have the 4 later boys Sylvia - couldnt appear to find a marriage for edward to mary but I think if I remember right I found Edward with someone else - just checked SARAH BLOWER
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SylviaInCanada
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17 Jan 2008 01:39 |
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1871 Census
Name: James Chetwynd Age: 35 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1836 Relation: Son Mother's Name: Mary Gender: Male Where born: Baddesley Ensor, Warwickshire, England Civil Parish: Baddesley Ensor Town: Baddesley Ensor County/Island: Warwickshire Country: England Registration district: Atherstone Sub-registration district: Atherstone ED, institution, or vessel: 6 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 144 Household Members: Name Age David Chetwynd 2 Ellen Chetwynd 7 Emma Chetwynd 10 Henry Chetwynd 4 James Chetwynd 35 Jane Chetwynd 34 Mary Chetwynd 82 Matilda Chetwynd 7 - - - - 1881 Census
Name: James Chetwynd Age: 45 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1836 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Jane Gender: Male Where born: Baddesley Ensor, Warwickshire, England Civil Parish: Baddesley Ensor County/Island: Warwickshire Country: England Condition as to marriage: Married
Occupation: Coal Miner Registration district: Atherstone Sub-registration district: Atherstone ED, institution, or vessel: 6 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age David Chetwynd 12 Henery Chetwynd 14 James Chetwynd 45 Jane Chetwynd 44 Matilda Chetwynd 17 Sidney Chetwynd 1 Son - - - - 1891 Census
Name: James Chetwynd Age: 56 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1835 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Jane Gender: Male Where born: Baddesley, Warwickshire, England Civil Parish: Baddesley Ensor Ecclesiastical parish: St Nicholas Town: Baddesley Ensor County/Island: Warwickshire Country: England Registration district: Atherstone Sub-registration district: Atherstone ED, institution, or vessel: 5 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age James Chetwynd 56 Jane Chetwynd 55 Sidney Chetwynd 11 Ellen Morris 8 Granddaughter
time to go for dinner!!!
I'll be back later, and see where you've got to
sylvia
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17 Jan 2008 02:06 |
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Sylvia I have to go to bed or I wont be up for school later and I dont want to dissapoint my daughter who loves school now do I ;-) Thanks for the findings so far , will check back later
I think I may have Patience's death cant find a marriage Dec 1857 atherstone 6d 275 Aso Amelias marriage Benjamin Bird 25 sept 1838 HOLY TRINITY Coventry
Beds screaming at me now , lol night night chek bak in a few hours Deb x
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SylviaInCanada
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17 Jan 2008 03:20 |
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?? marriages registered in Atherstone (registration centre that includes Baddesley Ensor)
Marriages Dec 1848 (>99%) BALL Elizabeth Atherstone 16 425 Chetwynd Peter Atherstone 16 425 Chetwynd William Atherstone 16 425 COOK Sarah Ann Atherstone 16 425
There are many many more on freebmd.org, registered in Warwickshire, including lots in Atherstone, but these were ones that I picked out.
Now I'll see if I can connect them up on the censuses!
sylvia
NOTE:- ............. I have deleted most of the ones I had originally posted 'cos I couldn't match them up on the censuses.
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SylviaInCanada
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17 Jan 2008 03:30 |
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Peter Chetwynd married Sarah Ann Cook
1881 Census
Name: Arthur Chetwynd Age: 7 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1874 Relation: Son Father's Name: Peter Mother's Name: Sarah A. Gender: Male Where born: Baddesley Ensor, Warwickshire, England Civil Parish: Baddesley Ensor County/Island: Warwickshire Country: England Street address: No 7 Speedwell Row
Occupation: Scholar Registration district: Atherstone Sub-registration district: Atherstone ED, institution, or vessel: 6 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Arthur Chetwynd 7 Frank Chetwynd 20 b.ca 1861, Baddesley Ensor, Gal Labor (??General Laborer??) or could be Coal Labor, Deaf & Dumb since birth Lizzie Chetwynd 13 b.ca 1868, Baddesley Ensor Peter Chetwynd 56 b.ca 1825, Walsall, Staffordshire (????), Coal Miner Sarah A. Chetwynd 54 b.ca 1827, Grendon, Warwickshire Sarah A. Chetwynd 10 b.ca 1871, Baddesley Ensor
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which means William Chetwynd married Elizbaeth Ball in 1848 (if in fact he is one of yours!!).
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17 Jan 2008 03:32 |
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1891 Census
Arthur???
Name: Arthur Chetwynd Age: 17 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1874 Relation: Servant Gender: Male Where born: Baddesley, Warwickshire, England Civil Parish: Baddesley Ensor Ecclesiastical parish: St Nicholas Town: Baddesley Ensor County/Island: Warwickshire Country: England Registration district: Atherstone Sub-registration district: Atherstone ED, institution, or vessel: 5 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Arthur Chetwynd 17 Dorothy M Lee 7/12 Francis Eva Lee 28 Henry Wilson Lee 36 Lizzie Metcalfe 33 Emily Nixon 18
- - - - Arthur's marriage???
Marriages Dec 1899 (>99%) >>>>Chetwynd Arthur Atherstone 6d 880 >>>>Genders Emily Atherstone 6d 880 Holland Lucy Ellen Atherstone 6d 880 Parker John Atherstone 6d 880 sylvia
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17 Jan 2008 04:19 |
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Edward's death???
Deaths Dec 1853 (99%) Chetwynd Edward Atherstone 6d 212
- - - probably Mary's death registration
Deaths Dec 1871 (>99%) Chetwynd Mary 82 Atherstone 6d 249
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I also found that marriage of Amelia to Benjamin Bird but I'm not convinced itis your Amelia. Look at where she was born:--
1851 Census
Name: Amelia Bird Age: 38 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1813 Relation: Wife Spouse's Name: Benjamn Gender: Female Where born: Kersley, Warwickshire, England Civil Parish: Coventry St Michael Ecclesiastical parish: St John County/Island: Warwickshire Country: England Registration district: Coventry Sub-registration district: St John ED, institution, or vessel: 27 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 94 Household Members: Name Age Amelia Bird 38 Benjamn Bird 39 Licensed Victualler John Brigs 25 Visitor Mary Croft 15 Servant Edward Jee 30 Visitor Thomas Mayyen 34 Lodger John Smith 17 Visitor John Thomas 30 Lodger Mark Turner 12 Servant
- - - - Amelia Bird apparently dies between 1851 and 1861
BUT in 1861 Benjamin is on, with the following:-
1861 Census
Name: Benjamin Bird Age: 50 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1811 Relation: Head Gender: Male Where born: Kearsley, Warwickshire, England Civil Parish: Coventry St Michael Ecclesiastical parish: St Thomas Town: Coventry County/Island: Warwickshire Country: England Registration district: Coventry Sub-registration district: St John ED, institution, or vessel: 35 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 42 Household Members: Name Age Benjamin Bird 50 Widower Eleanor Chitwyard 26 CHETWYND on image -------- b.ca 1835, Kearsley, daughter Joseph Chitwyard 27 CHETWYND ---- b.ca 1834, Wilncote, Warwickshire, son-in-law
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In case it was your Amelia who married Benjamin, here is the informationf rom the 1841 Census
Name: Benjamin Bird Age: 32 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1809 Gender: Male Where born: Warwickshire, England Civil Parish: Holy Trinity Hundred: Coventry County/Island: Warwickshire Country: England Registration district: Coventry Sub-registration district: Holy Trinity Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Amelia Bird 25 Benjamin Bird 32 Victualler Ellen Bird 7 Emma Bird 9 Jane Harris 15 Female Servant Sarah Miller 30 William Miller 29 Labourer William Miller 1 Ann Walles 25 John Walles 25 Moulder
As you know, it doens't give realtionships on the 1841, but it looks as thought the Wallis and Miller families are lodging with the Birds.
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17 Jan 2008 04:20 |
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I'll let you have a look at these tomorrow!
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