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Of the 3 Ada johnson's of 1861 census, yours is missing in 1871.
If you are checking the Stanley/Wakefield one is the same.

Did your Johnson's have family in the Sheffield area?

England & Wales, FreeBMD Death Index: 1837-1983 about Ada E Johnson
Name: Ada E Johnson
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1861
Year of Registration: 1866
Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep
Age at Death: 5
District: Sheffield
County: South Yorkshire, Yorkshire - West Riding
Volume: 9c
Page: 229

JulieD

The death certificates show that Mary Ann Johnson died first 22/8/1863 from Scarlet fever & English Cholera Charles died 27/8/1863 from Scarlet fever & their father died 5//9/1863 from inflammation of Thorax&Exhaustion.
I have been unable to determine what happened to the other child Ada who was C 3 at this time. She does not appear with her mother in the 1871 census where Ann is remarried to John Newton & only has her son Thomas who was born 1864 with them.
Can anyone else shed further light on Ada please.
Many thanks to Andy & Julie for their help Carrol

Ann and thomas marriage


Surname First name(s) District Vol Page

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Marriages Dec 1848 (>99%)
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BOOCOCK Samuel Bradford Y 23 250
HAINSWORTH Hannah Bradford Y 23 250
>>>>JOHNSON Thomas Bradford Yk 23 250
Mirfield Ann Bradford 23 250
>>>>Myers Ann Bradford 23 250
Naylor Susanna Bradford Y 23 250
SHARP Joshua Bradford Y 23 250
Walker Joseph Bradford Y 23 250

Andy

I wonder....did most of the family die at the same time?? Accident? Disease?


Deaths Sep 1863 (>99%)
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>>>>JOHNSON Charles Bradford Yk 9b 49
JOHNSON John Bradford Yk 9b 135
>>>>JOHNSON Mary Ann Bradford Yk. 9b 48
>>>>JOHNSON Thomas Bradford Yk. 9b 51


Andy

This is the only possible death for Thomas in Bradford. Ann would have only just been pregnant when Thomas died.

England & Wales, FreeBMD Death Index: 1837-1983 about Thomas Johnson
Name: Thomas Johnson
Year of Registration: 1863
Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep
District: Bradford
County: Yorkshire - West Riding, West Yorkshire
Volume: 9b
Page: 51

Other children from 1861 census
England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index: 1837-1983 about Ada Johnson
Name: Ada Johnson.... NOT "Arla" as transcribed
Year of Registration: 1860
Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun
District: Bradford
County: Yorkshire - West Riding, West Yorkshire
Volume: 9b
Page: 58

2 possibilities for Charles
England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index: 1837-1983 about Charles Johnson
Name: Charles Johnson
Year of Registration: 1857
Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun
District: Bradford
County: Yorkshire - West Riding, West Yorkshire
Volume: 9b
Page: 55

OR
Name: Charles Johnson
Year of Registration: 1856
Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep
District: Bradford
County: Yorkshire - West Riding, West Yorkshire
Volume: 9b
Page: 51

And 3 for Mary Ann
England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index: 1837-1983 about Mary Ann Johnson
Name: Mary Ann Johnson
Year of Registration: 1851
Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
District: Bradford
County: Yorkshire - West Riding, West Yorkshire
Volume: 23
Page: 115

Name: Mary Ann Johnson
Year of Registration: 1851
Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
District: Bradford
County: Yorkshire - West Riding, West Yorkshire
Volume: 8
Page: 115

Name: Mary Ann Johnson
Year of Registration: 1850
Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun
District: Bradford
County: Yorkshire - West Riding, West Yorkshire
Volume: 23
Page: 108

JulieD

Hi Andy

The certificate for Thomas Johnson shows Mother as Ann a widow maiden name Myers & father Thomas Johnson . So this is the right person thanks. The 1861 census has Thomas born Keighley Yorkshire C1823 & Annie born Plymouth living in Bradford at the address where Thomas was born in 1864 & there are three other children. I can't locate a birth for them or in a census after this or find a death for Thomas senior - will keep looking Many thanks fore you help Carrol

Hi Andy

The certificate gives her father as Theodore MYERS whose occupation is gentleman. The myers is a bit hard to read the M. I will order the birh cert for Thomas Johnson & see if this helps. I am still looking in all my usual search places to see what I can come up with.
Thanks again
Carrol

So Ann had a previous marriage! Does the marriage cert you have give her maiden name or the name and occupation of her father?

Andy

Hi Andy

Received the marriage cert for John Newton & Ann Johnson I ordered & it looks like it is the correct one. Thank you I will pursue the notion that Thomas was born a Johnson since Ann was listed as a widow on the cert
Many thanks
Regards
Carrol

On The Australian Electoral Roll I found the following:-
QLD 1905 District of Brisbane; Sub-distridt of Brisbane North
NEWTON, Gertrude; 37 Menzies St,; Housekeeper

QLD 1913 District of Brisbane; Sub-distridt of Brisbane North
NEWTON, Gertrude Rosalind,; 37 Menzies St., Petrie Terrace,; Home Duties

QLD 1919, District of Brisbane; Sub-distridt of Ithaca,
NEWTON, Gertrude Rosalind; Clyde St., Ballymore Estate., h/d
ALSO, NEWTON, Leslie Arthur, Clerk
& NEWTON, Elizabeth Mc Phail h/d

QLD 1925, District of Lilley; Sub-distridt of Kelvin Grove
NEWTON, Gertrude Rosalind; Clyde St., Ballymore Estate., h/d
ALSO, NEWTON, Leslie Arthur, Clerk
& NEWTON, Elizabeth Mc Phail h/d

1936, District of Maranoa; Sub-distridt of Nanango
NEWTON, Leslie Arthur, Manager,; Alford St. Kingaroy
& NEWTON, Elizabeth Mc Phail h/d

JulieD

Hi Julie
Yes that is the correct Thomas Newton I have these certificates. Leslie Arthur was my grandfather. I don't have a birth cert for Thomas nor a marriage cert for John & Annie. I have ordered the one for 1865 suggested by Andy & will explore the idea that Thomas may have been registered as Johnson???
Carrol

Carol,
Did Thomas marry in England or in Australia?
I have found the following marriage on the 31 Jan 1888 (in QLD) to Gertrud Rosalie BRAUER.
They had the following children:-
John Thomas b. 24 Oct 1888
Elsie Ada b. 1 Mar 1891
Leslie Arthur b. 24 Oct 1893
Alma Gertrude b. 1 Mar 1896

Thomas' death 9 Dec 1900, QLD (f) John & (m) Annie Johnson

JulieD

I wonder if the birth was recorded in mothers maiden name? This one would could just squeeze into age.


Births Jun 1864 (>99%)
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JOHNSON Thomas Bradford Yk 9b 63


Andy

Thanks Andy I am in Australia. I sent for a birth cert for a Thomas Newton born 2 May 1863 & registered in Bradford ( this would be the right qtr as you suggest but the parents are wrong Isaac & Elizabeth) I will follow up on the marriage cert to see what it brings. Regards Carrol

Possible marriage, after Thomas was born

Surname First name(s) District Vol Page

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Marriages Sep 1865 (>99%)
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HARTLEY Hannah Bradford Yk 9b 17
>>>>Johnson Ann Bradford,Yk 9b 17
Lofthouse Joseph Allanson Bradford Yk 9b 17
>>>>Newton John Bradford Yk 9b 17


Andy

Hi Carrol

Possible birth for Thomas

Surname First name(s) District Vol Page

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Births Jun 1863 (>99%)
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NEWTON Thomas Bradford Yk 9b 20

Andy

Thanks Andy This is the only record of Thomas I had been able to find in UK. No birth cert for Thomas or marriage cert for John & Annie. Thomas migrated to Australia ? year where he was a member of Qld Defence Force & he married in 1888 & died in 1900 aged 36. Any further leads would be appreciated Carrol

1871 census.


1871 England Census
about Thomas J Newton
Name: Thomas J Newton
Age: 7
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1864
Relation: Son
Father's Name: John
Mother's Name: Annie
Gender: Male
Where born: Bradford, Yorkshire, England

Civil Parish: Welwyn
Town: Railway Station
County/Island: Hertfordshire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View Image

Registration district: Hatfield
Sub-registration district: Welwyn
ED, institution, or vessel: 1
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 49
Household Members: Name Age
William A Gibson 18 Boarder occ Railway Clerk
Annie Newton 37
John Newton 34
Thomas J Newton 7 Occ Railway Signalman


Andy

I am looking for information and or family for Thomas NEWTON born C1865 Bradford York to parents John Newton born Carlton Scroop Lincs and Annie Johnson born Plymouth Devon.