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I'm trying to trace my great grand father. I have marrige certificates of his sons married in 1915. One shows he is alive in July 1915,but by December he has passed away.
I can not find any record of his death, nor can I find any record of his birth on the usual databases. Any suggestions please.

Hi Brian,
Could you put some Names and places to your posting please, so we may try and help you
Barbara

Hi there.
The name of my great grand father is Conrad Navier.and lived in HULL.Not sure what his wife was called.
He was a tailor by profession and he is listed in the 1911 phone directories with initials G.E. but I have no idea to the names. He had 4 sons, Conrad, Harry, Percy and Victor (my grand father). He died between 24th July 1915 and 11th December 1915.

1901 England Census
about Conrad Raewiger
Name: Conrad Raewiger
Age: 40
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1861
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Rose
Gender: Male
Where born: Berlin; Pru German Subject

Civil Parish: Holy Trinity
Ecclesiastical parish: St Jude
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England

Street address: 12 Sydney Terrace

Occupation: Tailor

Registration district: Hull
Sub-registration district: Myton
ED, institution, or vessel: 6
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 191
Household Members: Name Age
Conrad Raewiger 40
Rose Ranniger 35 - Chipping Norton
Conrad Ranniger 12
Victor Hugo Ranniger 11
Percy Byeste Ranniger 10
Hary Arthur Ranniger 5

All boys born Hull.

1891 England Census
Name: Conrad Tralwiger
Age: 30
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1861
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Rosina
Gender: Male
Where born: Preußen

Civil Parish: Holy Trinity
Ecclesiastical parish: St Luke
Town: Kingston
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England

Street address: 5 Hulls Place.

Occupation: tailor

Registration district: Hull
Sub-registration district: Myton
ED, institution, or vessel: 38
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Conrad Tralwiger 30
Rosina Tralwiger 26
Conrad Tralwiger 2
Victor Hugo Tralwiger 1
Percy Bysbie Tralwiger 4/12

A literary man. I bet Percy is Percy Bysshe. Yes the image is Byshe.

Hi Brian,
This is the only death that I could find that Maybe your Conrad

Deaths Sep 1915
Naewiger Conrad 54 Hull 9d

Hope this helps you
All the best
Barbara

Births Dec 1888
NAEWIGER William Louis C Hull 9d 287

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Births Mar 1890
Naewiger Victor Hugo Hull 9d 257

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Births Mar 1891
Naewiger Percy Bysshe Hull 9d 254a

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Births Jun 1896
Naewiger Harry Arthur Hull 9d 296


Deaths Sep 1915
Naewiger Conrad 54 Hull 9d 347

Marriages Dec 1887
COX Roseina Chipping Norton 3a 1411
NAEWIGER Gustav Emil C Chipping Norton 3a 1411


Notice that Conrad's first names match the initials of the telephone directory. It looks like this family use their 3rd names; perhaps a Prussian tradition.

I'd love to know how Chipping Norton came into the picture.

Other Naewigers

Deaths Jun 1884
Naewiger Otilie 10 Sculcoates 9d 126

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Marriages Mar 1885
Naewiger Wilhelmina E F Sculcoates 9d 251

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Deaths Mar 1886
Naewiger Minnie 18 Sculcoates 9d 121

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Marriages Sep 1903
NAEWIGER Charles Henry Sculcoates 9d 377 [2 yr old Carl from the 1881 census?]

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Deaths Sep 1905
Naewiger William 73 Sculcoates 9d 76 [Wilhelm, Conrad's father?]

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Deaths Dec 1913
Naewiger Charles H 34 Sculcoates 9d 254 [2 yr old Carl from the 1881 census?]

1881 England Census
Name: Conrad Newager [Looks like Neweiger on image to me.]
Age: 20
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1861
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Wolholm
Mother's Name: Louisa
Gender: Male
Where born: Berlin, Germany

Civil Parish: Sculcoates
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England

Street address: 14 New Garden St

Occupation: Tailor

Registration district: Sculcoates
Sub-registration district: West Sculcoates
ED, institution, or vessel: 16
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Wolholm Newager 49 - Prussia
Louisa Newager 45 - Prussia
Conrad Newager 20 - Berlin, Germany
Franzina Newager 16 - Hull
Minna Newager 13 - London
Wilhelm Newager 9 - London
Olilie Newager 7 - London
Carl Newager 2 - Berlin, Germany

A connection? Is it Franzina?

Births Mar 1865
Nawiger Wilhelmiene Franciska Elizabeth Hull 9d 209

Minna?

Births Sep 1867
Nawiger Rosina Florenthina M Clerkenwell 1b 622


No this has to be her surely?
Births Dec 1869
NAWIGER Louise Minna J Holborn 1b 587



Marriages Mar 1923
Naeweger Annie E Walters Sculcoates 9d 195

Thanks for replys. Will look into information provided and will report back.

Sorry, couldn't resist it. This family has me fascinated.


1871 England Census
Name: Willeolm Nawiger
Age: 38
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1833
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Elizabeth
Gender: Male
Where born: Preußen, Berlin

Civil Parish: St George The Martyr
Ecclesiastical parish: St John The Evangelist
Town: London
County/Island: London
Country: England

Street address: 56 Red Lions St

Occupation: tailor

Registration district: Holborn
Sub-registration district: St George the Martyr
ED, institution, or vessel: 5a
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 40
Household Members: Name Age
Willeolm Nawiger 38
Elizabeth Nawiger 37
Conraal Nawiger 10
Franzicoka Nawiger 6
Minna Nawiger 4

Wilhelm, Elizabeth & Conrad born Berlin, Franziska in Hull, Minna in London. There is an umlaut over the 'a' in Nawiger.

Marriages Mar 1885
HARPER Caroline Sculcoates 9d 251
...>>>Naewiger Wilhelmina E F Sculcoates 9d 251
...>>>Narwiger Wilhelmina E F Sculcoates 9d 251
Pearson Thomas Sculcoates 9d 251
...>>>ROVER F Christian L Sculcoates 9d 251
...>>>ROVER Johann Christian L Sculcoates 9d 251


Marriages Mar 1890
Maguire Jane Hull 9d 285
...>>>Rover Johann Christian L Hull 9d 285
...>>>Rover Johann Louis C Hull 9d 285
SHAKESBY James Hull 9d 285
...>>>Verney Sarah Elizabeth Hull 9d 285


I believe this may be Franziska's little girl.
1891 England Census
Name: Louisa Rover
Age: 5
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1886
Relation: Granddaughter
Father's Name: Louie
Mother's Name: Sarah E
Gender: Female
Where born: Hull, Yorkshire, England

Civil Parish: Holy Trinity
Ecclesiastical parish: St Barnabus
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England

Street address: 72 Daltry St

Occupation: scholar

Registration district: Hull
Sub-registration district: Myton
ED, institution, or vessel: 53
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Christopher Verney 66 - grocer
Tom Verney 34
Louie Rover 29 - cabinet maker; born Germany, British Subject.
Sarah E Rover 27
Louisa Rover 5
Lilly Rover 3/12
Emily F Colley 17 - servant


Births Sep 1885
Roever Louisa Franziska O M Sculcoates 9d 214


Deaths Jun 1886
ROEVER Franziska 21 Sculcoates 9d 108

Hi Ozibird.
Thanks for all this info. Will be looking into all of this . Hope it produces the goods!
regards
Brian

Hope so too. Please let me know.

When you think of it Nawiger could easily be anglicised to Navier with the German pronunciation of 'w' as 'v', & their gutteral 'g'.

Ozi.

Hi Barbara and Ozibird. Just to say I have received a copy of my Grand Father's birth certicate (Victor Hugo) in the post today and confirms my Great Grand Fathers name of Naewiger. I will continue with my research. Many thanks for the tips regarding the surname, would have been lost without your help.
Have a happy new year.
Brian

Brian, wonderful news. Happy hunting this side of your family. Happy New Year to you & yours.

Ozi.

Hello Ozibird

Family tree is progressing. I now have the marriage certificate of Gustav Emil Conrad Naewiger and Rosina Cox. The Chipping Norton in Oxfordshire is where Rosina Cox resided until her marraige. But I have yet to find out why Conrad got to Oxford, unless there was something to do with his trade as a tailor?