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bob

bob Report 5 Oct 2007 17:58

No I Dont have any certificates, mainly because this was a wildcard from a long time ago, My GMs maiden name was ALICE MAIDLOW, Bn Mar 1887, the Maidlows lived in the Holloway & hornsey areas,
Rose was a cousin,Bn Sept 1868 Lived at 37 Cottenham Road N19 Living next door at 36 was a Peters Family, this was where athe wildcard came in.
My GM Married a Thomas Booker 23/12/1906, but at some stage our surname became PETERS, and thought the tieup was Mary Maidlow, but now I find she died age 8 in Mar 1877 1b 272. I Have searched the deaths for her but obviously never found it.Thank you all for helping to clear up this MYSTERY,, Bob Peters.

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Do you actually have the marriage cert for Rose/Rosina?

Rose

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Bob,

It's NOT Mary Ann Maidlow. There's no marriage for them PLUS she died when she was 8.

Deaths Mar 1877
MAIDLOW Mary Ann 8 Islington 1b 272

Rose

bob

bob Report 5 Oct 2007 15:23

Iv,e got so far,
Mary A Maidlow living at 37 Cottenham St N7 on 1871 census
and a Peters Family Edmund & Eliza Living at 36 Cottenham st N7

Later on 1891 census I have
Mary A Peters 22 Living on own means
John Peters 25 Iron Moulder
Rosie Peters 2 Daughter
Living at 5 Caledonian Road N 1
then I have a Mary Peters Died 1958 Bermondsey 5c 100. this looks like the same Mary as the ages match

bob

bob Report 5 Oct 2007 13:52

You are all amazing, Going to post some more info later Found a Rose 1a 678 on my searches,any help?.

WayneTracey

WayneTracey Report 5 Oct 2007 03:39

So the Islington census would seem to be right?

These are the occupants of 5 Caledonian Road, Islington, E7

WILLIS, Louisa M Head Single F 40 Living On Own Means
Southwark
WILLIS, Alice M Sister Single F 36 Living On Own Means
Hammersmith
London
PHILLIPS, Florence Servant Single F 20 General Domestic
Pirton
Hertfordshire

WayneTracey

WayneTracey Report 5 Oct 2007 03:36

Rose i'll give the address the once over on findmypast

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Guess it's more likely it's this Mary Ann, seeing as she's closer to Islington. Unfortunately, both of them have a father called William.

1881 England Census
about Maryann Spiller
Name: Maryann Spiller
Age: 14
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1867
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: William
Mother's Name: Caroline
Gender: Female
Where born: St Luke, Middlesex, England
Civil Parish: St Luke
County/Island: London
Country: England
Street address: 82 Central Street
Occupation: Fancy Box Maker
Registration district: Holborn
Sub-registration district: City Road
ED, institution, or vessel: 13
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Alice Spiller 3
Caroline Spiller 41
Caroline Spiller 17
Elizabeth Spiller 11
Emma Spiller 5
Frederick Spiller 9
Harriet Spiller 7
Maryann Spiller 14
William Spiller 41
William Spiller 21

Rose

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Wayne,

Me neither, nor a Maidlow.

Rose

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Here's the other one in 1871:

1871 England Census
about Mary A Spiller
Name: Mary A Spiller
Age: 4
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1867
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: William
Mother's Name: Caroline
Gender: Female
Where born: St Luke, Middlesex, England
Civil Parish: St Luke
Ecclesiastical parish: St Luke
County/Island: London
Country: England
Registration district: Holborn
Sub-registration district: City Road
ED, institution, or vessel: 11
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 21
Household Members: Name Age
Caroline Spiller 31
Caroline Spiller 8
Elizabeth Spiller 1
John Spiller 10
Mary A Spiller 4
William Spiller 32
William Spiller 11

Rose

WayneTracey

WayneTracey Report 5 Oct 2007 03:24

Rose i can't seem to find a Mary Wright anywhere??

WayneTracey

WayneTracey Report 5 Oct 2007 03:22

all these are the Mary A's that married a John Peters..

Marriages Mar 1885 (>99%)
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QUIGLEY Mary Ann Woolwich 1d 1122

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Marriages Sep 1887 (>99%)
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Spiller Mary Ann Islington 1b 407

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Marriages Dec 1897 (>99%)
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Foy Mary Ann Hackney 1b 1059

WayneTracey

WayneTracey Report 5 Oct 2007 03:15

Marriages Jun 1908

Peters Rose St. Olave 1d 285
Collins John James St.Olave 1d 285


Children of the above


Births Dec 1912 (>99%)
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Collins Sarah M Peters Southwark 1d 108

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Births Sep 1914 (97%)
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COLLINS Thomas F Peters Southwark 1d 75

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Births Dec 1915 (>99%)
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COLLINS Ellen B PETERS Southwark 1d 77

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It's confusing because she was born Finsbury in one census and Shoreditch in the other.

There's this birth for Finsbury:

Births Dec 1866
Spiller Mary A St. Luke 1b 689

Rose

WayneTracey

WayneTracey Report 5 Oct 2007 03:11

another possible for Rose?

Name: Rose Peters
Year of Registration: 1889
Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
District: Hampstead
County: Greater London, London, Middlesex

WayneTracey

WayneTracey Report 5 Oct 2007 03:10

my entry appears to have disapeared?? hmm

Record
John Peters 1885 Jan-Feb-Mar Woolwich Greater London, Kent, London

Mary Ann Quigley 1885 Jan-Feb-Mar Woolwich Greater London, Kent, London

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Mary Ann in 1871:

1871 England Census
about Mary Ann Spillers
Name: Mary Ann Spillers
Age: 4
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1867
Relation: Daughter
Mother's Name: Mary Ann E
Gender: Female
Where born: Shoreditch, Middlesex, England
Civil Parish: Shoreditch
County/Island: London
Country: England
Registration district: Shoreditch
Sub-registration district: St Leonard
ED, institution, or vessel: 12
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 129
Household Members: Name Age
Edward McKenzie 29
Mary Ann E Spiller 43
William J Spiller 15
Charles Spillers 9
Elizh M A Spillers 13
George Spillers 6
Mary Ann Spillers 4
Rose Ann Spillers 11

Rose

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Think this is another son:

Births Sep 1898
Peters John Arthur Islington 1b 284

He's in Islington Prison also in 1901.

Rose

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John's birth:

Births Dec 1864
PETERS John Arthur Islington 1b 263

Rose

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Rosina Peters in 1891 is the daughter, not the sibling.

I assume she is the Rosina Elizabeth Peters.

Births Mar 1889
Peters Rosina Elizabeth Islington 1b 313


Marriage:

Marriages Sep 1887
FRASER Louisa Eliza Islington 1b 407
FROST Charles John Islington 1b 407
*****PETERS John Arthur Islington 1b 407
*****Spiller Mary Ann Islington 1b 407

Charles Frost married Louisa Fraser.

Rose