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Hello, I have a Martha Louisa Scrase born 1860 in Bristol to Henry Simon Scrase 1833 and Ruth.
In 1861 Martha is with Henry (Simon) and Ruth at home in Bristol. In 1871 Martha is a barmaid and noted as a niece living at Freemasons Arms, Avon Street with Caroline Copeland and Anne Copeland.
How do I find out who is the blood aunt? Also in 1881 there is a Martha Scrase noted as a widow. How do I find out if it is the same Martha. If she married and her husband died would she have reverted her name back to Scrase? I cant find a marriage for Martha.
Sorry so many questions early on a Sunday morning but I am truley stumped.
Thanks
Marcelle

A Scase/Copeland marriage would tell you which is the true aunt.

Looking more closely at it , Caroline is transcribed as WIFE of Ann, clearly Ann is not an ANN!

1871 for ref

Name: Caroline Copeland
Age: 49
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1822
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: Ann
Gender: Female
Where born: Bristol, Gloucestershire, England

Civil Parish: St Philip and St Jacob
Ecclesiastical parish: St Silas
County/Island: Gloucestershire
Country: England


Registration district: Clifton
Sub-registration district: St Philip
ED, institution, or vessel: 27
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 7
Household Members: Name Age

Ann Copeland 49 < (But it isnt Ann) Born Burslem, Staffordshire
Caroline Copeland 49
Martha Louisa Scrase 17

Sorry just found the Caroline Copeland connection!
Found it was Matha's mothers sister Caroline who married a Copeland.
Just stuck on Martha in 1881 now

Matha's mum was Ruth Breaker and her sister Caroline married Aaron Copeland

so Ann was Aaron.

are you sorted now? - sometimes you cant see the wood for the trees!

Not quire sorted as I am stuck with Martha in 1881. She seems to have a daughter living with her who was born in Australia but I cant find a marriage for Martha. If it is the same Martha and she went back to using the surname Scrase

Or went to Australia, came back with an Illig daughter & called herslf a widow

which one in 1881 are you looking at?

The Martha in 1881 was born in 1831 so she can't be yours.

Rose

I have gotten myself all confused! I now think Martha may have been Henry Scrase 1833 (Matha's dad) sister. Still cant find a marriage though for either

In 1841 census Henry Simon Scrase is noted as Simon. I wonder if Matha Louisa is noted as Louisa aged 1. The dates would tie up

No they wouldn't! Im talking rubbish now...crickey I've lost the plot

make yoursel;f a cup of tea or coffee, sit and untangle your noddle - or you are going to get in a right old pickle!!!

Her birth is under Scrace.

Births Sep 1853
SCRACE Martha Louisa Clifton 6a 97

You have her born in 1860.

Rose

Marriages Jun 1874

Iles Thomas Ed Bedminster 5c 1272
Scarse Martha Louisa Bedminster 5c 1272

Rose

1891 England Census
about Martha L Iles
Name: Martha L Iles
Age: 37
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1854
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: Thomas E
Gender: Female
Where born: Bristol, Gloucestershire, England
Civil Parish: Aston
Ecclesiastical parish: St Andrews
Town: Bordesley
County/Island: Warwickshire
Country: England
Registration district: Aston
Sub-registration district: Deritend
ED, institution, or vessel: 75
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Charlotte R Iles 11
Elizabeth G Iles 9
Ellen M Iles 1
Frederick E Iles 5
Martha L Iles 37
Martha L Iles 15
Thomas E Iles 35


Rose

That's it !Im taking your advice, off for a cuppa, a shower and to do some house work! Tomorrow it will be " sorry husband you have no shirts for work because I was on the PC all day!"
It can't be that hard to find a marriage can it? lol
Thanks for your help
Marcelle
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1881 England Census
about Martha Iles
Name: Martha Iles
Age: 27
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1854
Relation: Head
Gender: Female
Where born: St Philips
Civil Parish: Bedminster
County/Island: Somerset
Country: England
Street address: 1,2,3 Sargents Arms
Condition as to marriage: Married
Registration district: Bedminster
Sub-registration district: Bedminster
ED, institution, or vessel: 19
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Charlotte Iles 1
Martha Iles 27
Martha Iles 5
Thomas Iles 3


Rose

Whoopeeeee...Thankyou Rose
You are a STAR..I shall be singing in the shower
Thankyou so much to all of you for you help
Marcelle

1881

Name: Charlotte Iles
Age: 1
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1880
Relation: Daughter
Mother's Name: Martha
Gender: Female
Where born: Temple Philips Bristol

Civil Parish: Bedminster
County/Island: Somerset
Country: England

Street address: 1,2,3 Sargents Arms


Registration district: Bedminster
Sub-registration district: Bedminster
ED, institution, or vessel: 19
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Charlotte Iles 1
Martha Iles 27
Martha Iles 5
Thomas Iles 3

Sorry - bringing up the rear here!

Can you see them in 1901?