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hi whisky and vera,many thanks for your help.the answer to the hanson middle name is yes they are my relations uncles,aunts and great grandparents.where it came from have yet to find out.cheers vera this could be the edizth i have been looking for ( elizabeth dunbar 1883) will try to find out more at my end.sorry i haven't replied before now as they have just posted page 2 .best regards ,and many thanks for your help. sue

hi whisky,thanks for that info yes this is my william and margaret.do you have any idea on how to find out about her first husband and how and when he died if at all .still have not had any luck in finding anything out about edizth g dunbar aged 7 in the 1891 census.maybe it,s short for something but for the life of me can,t think what,i think the g stands for georgina as it seems like a family name.best regards sue

Hi,

Found this....
Deaths Sep 1892 (>99%)

DUNBAR Elizabeth Jane 9 Sunderland 10a 341

Unfortunately the only way to find out if it is your Elizabeth is a certificate.

Regards Vera

Hi Susan,

Found these births

Births Sep 1883 (>99%)

DUNBAR Elizabeth Alnwick 10b 362
DUNBAR Elizabeth Jane Sunderland 10a 665

I think the Elizabeth I showed you in 1901...might not be the right one...

Regards Vera

Hi Susan,

Have you seen this Elizabeth Dunbar....

Name: Elizabeth Dunbar
Age: 17
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1884
Relation: Niece
Gender: Female
Where born: Newcastle

Civil Parish: Elswick
Ecclesiastical parish: St Aidan
County/Island: Northumberland
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: Newcastle upon Tyne
Sub-registration district: Westgate
ED, institution, or vessel: 37
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 20
Household Members: Name Age
Catherine Charlton 6
Elizabeth Charlton 48
Joseph Charlton 58
Elizabeth Dunbar 17
Charles E Ismay 20
John Ismay 23
Mary E Ismay 17
Thos Ismay 21

Regards Vera

Still cant find anything on Edizth Dunbar or even Edith, nothing at all except her entry on the 1891 aged 7, no birth, death or marriage or 1901 census

Mystery

It is intersting that George has a middle name of Hanson, there are several Dunbars from Sunderland with the middle name of Hanson, they are possible all your somewhere along the line

see below

George Hanson Dunbar 1881 Oct-Nov-Dec Sunderland Durham, Tyne and Wear
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George Hanson Dunbar 1906 Jan-Feb-Mar Sunderland Durham, Tyne and Wear
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Georgina Hanson Dunbar 1901 Jan-Feb-Mar Sunderland Durham, Tyne and Wear
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Georgina Hanson Dunbar 1901 Jan-Feb-Mar Sunderland Durham, Tyne and Wear
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Robert Hanson Dunbar 1909 Apr-May-Jun Sunderland Durham, Tyne and Wear
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Sarah Hanson Dunbar 1867 Apr-May-Jun Sunderland Durham, Tyne and Wear
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Sarah Hanson Dunbar 1877 Jan-Feb-Mar Sunderland Durham, Tyne and Wear

His parents marriage maybe

THOMAS DUNBARR Pedigree
Male Family


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Event(s):
Birth:
Christening:
Death:
Burial:


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Marriages:
Spouse: JANE COOPER Family
Marriage: 02 NOV 1807 Sedgefield, Durham, England

This looks like his father Johns baptism, as the Cooper's name comes from his mother
JOHN DUNBAR Pedigree
Male


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Event(s):
Birth: 06 FEB 1812

Christening: 23 AUG 1812 Washington, Durham, England

Death:
Burial:


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Parents:
Father: THOMAS DUNBAR Family
Mother: JANE COOPER


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At last a father in the 1841 before William was born

Sarah Dunbar
Age: 25
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1816
Gender: Female
Where born: Durham, England

Civil Parish: Monkwearmouth
Hundred: Chester (East Division)
County/Island: Durham
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation: View Image

Registration district: Sunderland
Sub-registration district: Monkwearmouth
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Cowper Dunbar 11 Mo
John Dunbar 27
Sarah Dunbar 25


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Source Citation: Class: HO107; Piece 299; Book: 8; Civil Parish: Monkwearmouth; County: Durham; Enumeration District: 5; Folio: 25; Page: 44; Line: 9; GSU roll: 241347

And in 1851, still no sign of his father

William Dunbar
Age: 9
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1842
Relation: Son
Mother's Name: Sarah
Gender: Male
Where born: Sunderland, Durham, England

Civil Parish: Monkwearmouth Shore
Ecclesiastical parish: St Peter
County/Island: Durham
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

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Registration district: Sunderland
Sub-registration district: Monk
ED, institution, or vessel: 2a
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 210
Household Members: Name Age
Cooper Dunbar 10
Robert Dunbar 8
Sarah Dunbar 36
William Dunbar 9
Allan Lessels 23


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Source Citation: Class: HO107; Piece: 2398; Folio: 131; Page: 47; GSU roll: 87076.

Here is William in 1861 before his marriage to Margaret, it looks like his mother re-married Mather Scott

William Dunbar
Age: 19
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1842
Relation: Stepson
Mother's Name: Sarah
Gender: Male
Where born: Sunderland, Durham, England

Civil Parish: Monkwearmouth
Ecclesiastical parish: All Saints
County/Island: Durham
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage: View Image

Registration district: Sunderland
Sub-registration district: Monk Wearmouth
ED, institution, or vessel: 6
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 436
Household Members: Name Age
Cooper Dunbar 20
Robert Dunbar 18
William Dunbar 19
George Scott 7
Hannah Scott 20
Jane Scott 14
John Scott 19
Mather Scott 49
Sarah Scott 47
William Scott 18


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Source Citation: Class: RG9; Piece: 3782; Folio: 42; Page: 78; GSU roll: 543186.

Could this be William Dunbar and Margarets marriage

Surname First name(s) District Vol Page

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Marriages Dec 1865 (>99%)
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Chambers Margaret Sunderland 10a 722
Dunbar William Sunderland 10a 722

thanks to you all for the new information,it's added another branch to my tree.the only 1 i can not find any info on is edizth g dunbar,could anyone help?
cheers sue

family on the 1881

Name: William Dunbar
Age: 39
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1842
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Margaret
Gender: Male
Where born: Sunderland, Durham, England

Civil Parish: Monkwearmouth Shore
County/Island: Durham
Country: England

Street address: 30 Hamilton St
Condition as to marriage: Married
Education:

Employment status: View Image
Occupation: Ship Joiner Builder

Registration district: Sunderland
Sub-registration district: Monk Wearmouth
ED, institution, or vessel: 10
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Addy Dunbar 2
John Dunbar 8
Margaret Dunbar 39
Mary A. Dunbar 13
Sarah H. Dunbar 4
William Dunbar 39

1891 poss

Name: Georgina Thompson
Age: 9
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1882
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Edward
Mother's Name: Mary J
Gender: Female
Where born: Sunderland

Civil Parish: Bishop Wearmouth
Ecclesiastical parish: St Peter
County/Island: Durham
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: Sunderland
Sub-registration district: North Bishop Wearmouth
ED, institution, or vessel: 4
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Edward Thompson 42
Edward J Thompson 14
Florence Thompson 3
Georgina Thompson 9
Lily Thompson 4
Margaret Thompson 12
Mary J Thompson 41
Mary J Thompson 11

You really need to get the marriage cert to check the names of the fathers against the possible entries on the census


Maureen

Hi
You will need to get his marriage certificate to verify which is his family in the 1881
or his birth certificate

Ann

or this one for 1891

Name: Geo H Dunbar
Age: 9
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1882
Relation: Son
Father's Name: William
Mother's Name: Margt
Gender: Male
Where born: Monkwearmouth, Durham, England

Civil Parish: Monk Wearmouth Shore
Ecclesiastical parish: St Peter
County/Island: Durham
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: Sunderland
Sub-registration district: Monk Wearmouth
ED, institution, or vessel: 13
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Addy Dunbar 11
Edizth G Dunbar 7
Geo H Dunbar 9
John Dunbar 18
Margt Dunbar 49
Sarah A Dunbar 14
William Dunbar 49

Roy

1891 poss

Name: Geo H Dunbar
Age: 9
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1882
Relation: Son
Father's Name: William
Mother's Name: Margt
Gender: Male
Where born: Monkwearmouth, Durham, England

Civil Parish: Monk Wearmouth Shore
Ecclesiastical parish: St Peter
County/Island: Durham
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: Sunderland
Sub-registration district: Monk Wearmouth
ED, institution, or vessel: 13
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Addy Dunbar 11
Edizth G Dunbar 7
Geo H Dunbar 9
John Dunbar 18
Margt Dunbar 49
Sarah A Dunbar 14
William Dunbar 49 shipyard labourer

All listed as born Monkwearmouth

This is the nearest on the 1891 census

Name: George A Dunbar
Age: 11
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1880
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Peter
Mother's Name: Annie
Gender: Male
Where born: Ouston Square, Durham, England

Civil Parish: Ouston
Ecclesiastical parish: Holy Trinity Pelton
County/Island: Durham
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: Chester Le Street
Sub-registration district: Harraton
ED, institution, or vessel: 3
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Mary Ann Corker 22
Annie Dunbar 39
David H Dunbar 9
George A Dunbar 11
John W Dunbar 14
Peter Dunbar 39
Thomas J Dunbar 3/12

Roy