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Bartlett - De Vere Where do they fit in ???
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Σ(•`) Cougar’s a Chick Σ(•`) | Report | 20 Aug 2007 11:02 |
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On 1901 Census---- Charles Blackwell, head, 54, painter, born St. Pancras, London, Ellen L., wife, 54, born St. Pancras-------------my relations have these people staying with them-----------but where do they fit the Blackwell family ???---------------- Edward J. Bartlett, nephew, married, 40, actor, born Kiddersly? Carmarthon Shore? Maud E. Bartlett, niece, married, 40, actress, born St. Pancras living at 381 Portobello Rd., Kensington, London-----------if anyone can unravel a Blackwell/ Bartlett marriage I would appreciate it Charles wife name is Ellen Mellor perhaps they are her nices & nephews so it would need a Mellor/Bartlett marriage Thankyou |
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GlitterBaby | Report | 20 Aug 2007 11:33 |
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Really clutching at straws with this one as age is out but same place of birth 1861 Name: Edward J Bartlett Age: 8 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1853 Relation: Nephew Gender: Male Where born: Caermastheuch, Kidwelly Civil Parish: Cambridge Holy Trinity County/Island: Cambridgeshire Country: England Street address: Occupation: Condition as to marriage: View Image Registration district: Cambridge Sub-registration district: St Andrew the ED, institution, or vessel: 4 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 143 Household Members: Name Age Daniel Ace 48 Devonport, Devon Sophia L Ace 54 Cowes, Isle of Wight Edward J Bartlett 8 William Foote 23 Lodger Daniel is a clergyman ?? 1871 another mad guess Name: Edward J Badgett Age: 18 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1853 Relation: Head Gender: Male Where born: Kidwelly, Cumberland, says Carmarthen on image Civil Parish: Stoke Damerel Ecclesiastical parish: [Mother church] County/Island: Devon Country: England Street address: Occupation: Condition as to marriage: Disability: View Image Registration district: Stoke Damerel Sub-registration district: Clowance ED, institution, or vessel: 1 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 129 Household Members: Name Age Edward J Badgett 18 1871 image is Bartlett. He is on a separate schedule but shown as nephew. No occupation is listed |
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Σ(•`) Cougar’s a Chick Σ(•`) | Report | 20 Aug 2007 11:55 |
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Hello Glitter Baby Thank you for that info, I needed a fresh pair of eyes although yours are probably worn out from all the searchimg you do!!!------------it will give me a good start to the search Thankyou |
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GlitterBaby | Report | 20 Aug 2007 11:57 |
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1891 how about this for an even madder guess Name: Edward Devere Age: 34 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1857 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Maud E Gender: Male Where born: Kidwelly, Wales Civil Parish: Rowley Regis Ecclesiastical parish: St Luke Town: Cradley Heath County/Island: Staffordshire Country: England Street address: Occupation: Condition as to marriage: Education: Employment status: View Image Registration district: Dudley Sub-registration district: Rowley Regis ED, institution, or vessel: 23 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Beatrice Devere 9/12 born Carmarthen Edward Devere 34 Henery E Devere 3 born Daventry Maud E Devere 26 born London Will take a look at image Maureen UPDATED Edward - actor in theatre Maud - actoress in theatre |
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Battenburg | Report | 20 Aug 2007 12:04 |
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Perhaps Charles Blackwells sister had a daughter called Maude . Maude and Charles both born in Pancras. So Edward J Bartlett is nephew in law Margaret |
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Battenburg | Report | 20 Aug 2007 12:10 |
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Where are the Devere children in 1901 or should I say Bartlett children. There is a death for Henry E Bartlett born 1886 died 1910 dec qt in Thanet Kent gro ref 2a 589 |
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GlitterBaby | Report | 20 Aug 2007 12:21 |
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Just wondering about this birth June 1890 Bartlett Beatrice Maud Carmarthen 11a 1012 |
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Σ(•`) Cougar’s a Chick Σ(•`) | Report | 20 Aug 2007 12:30 |
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This is all getting so interesting now what with actors & actresses The only Maud Blackwell on my tree has no children as yet she was born 1887 and had three husbands Buchan Thompson & Slater-----Her brother George was staying with this family also in 1901 and went on to marry actress Dolly Williams so it all seems connected this That Edward J Bartlett is 40yrs old on that Census ??? Anyone want to see my tree to sort it out ??? |
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Battenburg | Report | 20 Aug 2007 12:37 |
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What about this birth. Henry Edward Bartlett 1887 dec qt Daventry Northamptonshire gro ref 3b 114 |
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Σ(•`) Cougar’s a Chick Σ(•`) | Report | 20 Aug 2007 12:56 |
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Thankyou so much girls for all tose lookups you have done I will keep all these threads and hopefully find where they fit in.. I need to get my thinking cap on Cheers |
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Battenburg | Report | 20 Aug 2007 13:03 |
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Has nobody found the Bartlett children in 1901. Sorry no longer subscribe to Ancestry so I cant look |
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Σ(•`) Cougar’s a Chick Σ(•`) | Report | 20 Aug 2007 13:13 |
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Margaret I subscribe to 1837 and have to buy credits to even access the 1901 records, to see if there are any possibles, let alone have a look perhaps someone will find them for us |
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Battenburg | Report | 20 Aug 2007 13:48 |
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Crouger you can look on the 1901 census here on Genes without paying.though you can only see the person you search for and his occupation sometimes. You can usully work out if the spouse is in the same area.Try it type Edward Bartlett and it comes up born 1861 occ actor. Just had a look for him. Cant find the children though. |
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Σ(•`) Cougar’s a Chick Σ(•`) | Report | 20 Aug 2007 15:45 |
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Hello Margaret I can look at Abcestry but when I try to open the 1901 to have a look it tells me to subscribe, I remember a time when I could see more. I do not now if it was a trail period or because I bought a familysoftware packarge from them |
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GlitterBaby | Report | 20 Aug 2007 16:51 |
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I think possibly that Beatrice is listed as Beattie on 1901 census - born in London and lodging in Yorkshire. Henry possibly listed as born in London and lodging in Lancashire. Wish I could find Edward in 1881 or a marriage. Maureen |
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Σ(•`) Cougar’s a Chick Σ(•`) | Report | 20 Aug 2007 17:34 |
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I am still looking for Edward in the 1881 Census no luck yet!!! |
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Σ(•`) Cougar’s a Chick Σ(•`) | Report | 20 Aug 2007 17:45 |
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Found Edward CARPENTER, Joshua Head Married M 44 Railway Inspector Oakford Devon CARPENTER, Mary Wife Married F 29 Gornalwood Abbey (Stafford) CARPENTER, Eva Alice Step Daughter Single F 18 Pontypool Monmouthshire CARPENTER, William H R Son Single M 7 Pontypool Monmouthshire CARPENTER, Lilly M M Daughter Single F 5 Pontypool Monmouthshire CARPENTER, Albert C Son Single M 1 Pontypool Monmouthshire DE VERE, Edward Boarder Married M 31 Dramatic Artiste (Actor) Kidwelly Carmarthenshire Wales DE VERE, Maud L Boarder Married F 22 Professor Of Music London, London Middlesex -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- RG number: RG11 Piece: 5250 Folio: 5 Page: 3 Registration District: Pontypool Sub District: Pontypool EnumerationDistrict: Ecclesiastical Parish: Civil Parish: Trevethin With Pontypool Municipal Borough: Address: 13 Upper Bridge St, Trevethin With Pontypool County: Monmouthshire |
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Σ(•`) Cougar’s a Chick Σ(•`) | Report | 20 Aug 2007 17:48 |
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So is this DE VERE, name a stage name for Bartlett I have forgotten how we got it now ??? |
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GlitterBaby | Report | 20 Aug 2007 17:55 |
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Really strange because the 1881 entry I was going to suggest it. Still not found any trace of a marriage Maureen |
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Σ(•`) Cougar’s a Chick Σ(•`) | Report | 20 Aug 2007 18:03 |
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Don't think stage people do get married do they???---------Would it not spoil their image |
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