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i have harriets birth cert and helen is not down as her mother,helens mum and dad are down as the parents,you could say that i have my mothers mother and know can find her sent for birth cert but the fathers name was,nt the same as on her marriage so ive give up on that one as there were lots of people tried to find her but nothing,it was like my mum she met my dad in wales now he was from london and she came from liverpool joyce

Hi Joyce, What a difficult family you have. Can't find any death for Ellen or Helen in that timescale and I presumed it was the London Area. Being nosey I wondered how Malcolm met Helen as she was born in Manchester, but then saw she was in London in 1891 census with her daughter. Anyway good luck with all your searches will let you know if I can find anything. Steph

thats the one i sent for her name ellen morgan otherwise brown and she was spinster

i honestly dont know somebody else gave me that but she dosnt have amiddle name and i went and order the other one which was wrong,i remembered when my dad left for australia in 1914 i think his mother was still alive,but being so young then and trying to remember that long ago i could be wrong,but thank you for taking the time to look for me it seems i have trouble finding the femail side of my familys

There is also Dec Qtr 1909 Ellen aged 44 (slightly out) District Islington Page 1b Page 139 Steph

Don't suppose this is her Sept qtr 1910 Helen V Morgan aged 42 District Marylebone Vol 1a Page 275 Steph

it was helen

Joyce, When she married was it as ellen or helen? Steph

her date of birth 11april 1868 she on the census further up on this thread,but my dad said when he came back to england in1918 his mother was dead ,sorry cant be of more help

Joyce, Any idea when she may have died? What's her dob so I can get the age at death. Steph

yes please Steph she is helen morgan nee tyler but on the birth cert shes ellen born chorlton hulme,i have her on the 1901 census with family but cant get her death cert the one that was sent is,nt right and thank you joyce

Hi Joyce, Do you need any help looking for her death? Steph

i sent of for copys of my grandmothers birth cert and death cert,the birth cert is right but not the death cert so back to the begining finding her death joyce

Merton is SE of Wimbledon.

thank you Sophia would you like me to pm my email address

thank you, can i ask were Merton is please then i can mybe find out were hes buried

found it yes thats the same one regiment number m2/o19476 army service corp

thank you if you would be so kind,forgive me for asking but what did you put im in abit of amuddle housis getting renvate,i seem to have misplaced

Sorry can't help you with ancestry I've not got a sub either. Steph

thank you Steph your agem,i have just found i think its him for war pensions 1914-1920 but cant have alook as im not sub to ancestery