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Val Did you contact the Australian Defence records, as Irene suggested? If he was in the AIF (you seem to have plenty of his details to narrow down the correct individual) then the service records should show next of kin info/home address, etc. Ian

Hi I'm still having problems finding my man!! I have tried to find out more about the 3010/1873, Frederick,( his parents James and Eliza, ) with out sending for a birth certificate, as this won't tell me where they went after he was born or his profession. The reason I thought I would follow this up is, that Dad's sister was Betty! they could have named her after both my grandmothers. She was christened Helen Elizabeth!!, Gran's Mum was Helen!!. This mans Mum Eliza!! Does any one in the good old Oz know of any other web page that would follow him, like we can over here, census year by year etc. I hoped this might say what he did later on in his life (join the army maybe) I am sorry to be a pain but I shall keep my fingers crossed. Val

could he have been born over here and emmigrated to Australia?? that appears to be the next step, as we found a Frederick George born in Salford 2 months on 1881 census, year he was born !! I need to ask next if someone can do a look up in Manchester in the 91 and 1901 to see if anything shows up, FUNNY THAT HE LEFT AUSTRALIAN ARMY TO SETTLE IN MANCHESTER!! or what a coincidence !! I hope this is right, or is my brain working overtime!! Val

THANKS IRENE

Valerie You won't need much more than that if you knew what he was in they would check for you. It is worth a try anyway. Happy New Year to you too. Irene

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HELLO IRENE, HAPPY NEW YEAR TO YOU AND YOUR FAMILY. THANKS ONCE AGAIN FOR ALL YOUR HELP. We never knew my Grandfather, he died about 2 months after my Dad was born in 1927. All we know about him is, that he was Frederick Henry GEORGE, born in Sydney Australia in 1881 was a soldier in the Machine Gun Corps. in the Australian army, fought in WW1, after the war he became a draftsman, settled, met my Gran, married in Manchester until he died in 1927 in Manchester. His wife was Lilian WATT, they had a daughter, Helen Elizabeth, in 1924 and a son, my Dad, Douglas, in 1927. NOT A LOT TO FIND HIM IS IT ? NO PAPERS AT ALL!!!! Regards Val

Hi Valarie Don't put to much to cloud the issue, just his full name, when you think he may have been born, and when he left the army. The other thing is if he was Australian, the Australian Embassey may help, did they have to ask permission to stay in this country, and when they married did they have to show documents of any sort, that sort of thing. They may be shut for Christmas but make a list of things to ask them after. Do you remember him at all. Have a lovely Christmas and New Year may it be a good one for everyone. Irene.

Hi Irene thank you for the suggestion, my problem is, that we have NO documents of his at all!!!, everything was destroyed after he died, by my G.Gran!!, (help Gran grieve!!) we don't even have a photo of him!!! But it may be an idea to write to Australia, they can only say NOT ABLE TO HELP, DUE TO INSUFFICIENT INFORMATION. can't they? Best wishes for Christmas and the New Year - Val

Val seeing as you know he was in the Australian Army why don't you write to them. If you have his number all the better. They should be able to tell his next of kin, if its like ours? Maybe able to tell where abouts in Australia as well. It may take some time but its worth a try. Irene

THANK YOU !!!! ANDREW for all your precious time you have given to me, at such a busy time!!! I shall see what I can do with the info, although looking at the D.O.Bs they don't look near enough to his age. Everything is worth a try though isn't it. ONCE AGAIN MANY THANKS AND A VERY MERRY CHRISTMAS TO YOU AND YOURS FROM VAL on the THE WIRRAL.

Hi Valerie I have copied the information John found for you from the website for the NSW Births Deaths and Marriages Registry 16822/1876 GEORGE FREDERICK JOHN WILLIAM MARY ANNIE NEWCASTLE 3010/1873 GEORGE FREDERICK JAMES ELIZA SYDNEY 15049/1885 GEORGE FREDERICK A WILLIAM ADA E DUBBO 6535/1890 GEORGE FREDERICK W A WILLIAM EMILY M BATHURST 25759/1895 GEORGE FREDERICK L MARK H MARY PENRITH 27745/1896 GEORGE FREDERICK L A FREDERICK A EDITH SYDNEY The first line is the registration number which includes the year of birth. You will need to quote all of these fields to obtain a birth certificate. The second line is the individual's name The third line is the name of the individual's father and mother. The fourth line is the registration district. The last given website is correct www(.)bdm(.)nsw(.)gov(.)au *** Remember to remove the brackets *** To search the index, navigate to Family History section in the drop down menu - then hit "Search" within the options that come up. A set of text boxes similar to the search function on Genesconnected should come up. You should be able to find this information from here Happy Christmas from Andrew in Australia (Melbourne).

I am so sorry to be a nuicense - Val

I'm still hoping for someone to PLEASE HELP ME!!! Val

My fault...should be www(.)bdm(.)nsw(.)gov(.)au As for xmas we did that last weekend and can relax 3 weeks earlier than everyone else. Will spend the official one on the beach as usual.

Val, Its the NSW Registry of Births, Deaths and Marriages site. I just put 'NSW Births' into Go*gle, then go to Family History , then ,Search Records, then Births 1788-1905 and enter a range of years like 1870-1890 in this case. The site address (remove brackets) is www(.)nsw(.)gov(.)au Your not quite 1881 Fredericks in Sydney are Frederick son of James and Eliza, 1873 Frederick L A son of Frederick A and Edith, 1896 Frederick W son of Alfred E and Lily M,1903 There are other Fredericks in New South Wales (NSW) but mostly in country towns and also with the wrong middle initial.

Hi John Thanks for getting back to me!! I would be grateful if you could either email me, through G.C. as this won't put my email add. down!! or let me have all the info you have on the 4 Frederick Georges you came across!! where any in the army?? I am having problems getting on the Genesconnected at the moment, it took me 5 hours! just to get on the net, the other night!! never mind any other search engines, don't know if you're having the same trouble down under!!!!???? What do I actually ask my search engine. when it stops running away!!! NSW what please? I hope you managed to get a good nights sleep the other night. Look forward to hearing from you in the not too distant future!! best wishes, from Val, the right way up !! I think!!!

Val' Just try the phrase on your search engine. If you have any difficulty, mail me direct. Its bedtime down here. John in Aus

Hello John Many thanks for looking this one up for me!! As you will gather I'm pretty new at this!!! Can you let me know how I get the NSW site you mention? also would it be at all possible for you to look up the 4 Fredericks and let me have the information displayed. I can only hope that they left the Henry out when filling in forms.!!! Many thanks Val

Val, The NSW Registry of Births etc has a Family History section for lookups...don't get too excited though..no Frederick Henry George...4 Frederick Georges born 1873-1890 though.