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My grandfather Alfred Edward Westwood born 1918 Sheffield, Mother I think was Nora surname Warren or Norris, father possibly called Alfred or Edward killedwhen his ship went down in the first world war before my Granfather was born. No idea what happened after as family dis-owned my Grandfather in approx 1939 after his marriage to my grandmother Edith Melluish and he refused to discuss after this, therefore we have no knowledge of either side of the Westwood or Melluish family. Help appreciated Thanks

Joanne The only Westwood showing as being killed in 1918 on the CWGC site is George Henry. Debby

Thanks What is this CWGC site - does it say what ship he was on and his age or next of kin - or am I hoping for too much

Details from www.cwgc.org :- Name: WESTWOOD, GEORGE HENRY Initials: G H Nationality: United Kingdom Rank: Stoker 2nd Class Regiment: Royal Navy Unit Text: H.M.S. 'Sarnia.' Age: 20 Date of Death: 12/09/1918 Service No: K/51633 Additional information: Son of Charles Richard and Alice Elizabeth Westwood, of 42, Quadrant St., Canning Town, London. Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead Grave/Memorial Reference: 29. Cemetery: CHATHAM NAVAL MEMORIAL Kath. x

Jo anne I think the best and easiest thing would be for you to first get your Grandfathers birth cert. Then you would know exactly who his parents were. This should hopefully mean you can find their marriage and then find them on the 1901 census. Esta :)

Ji Joanne You'd know for sure if you search and obtain your Grandfathers Birth cert Your able to do this online here: www*1837online*com It will even give you a link to the official website of BMD's so that you can purchase the cert. This will have his fathers name and his mothers maiden name amongst other info that maybe of use to you. Much happiness debi Remove the * and replace with a .

I've looked on 1837online and can't find an Alfred Edward Westwood registered in 1918 or the first qtr. of 1919. Have you got your grandfather's date of birth correct? Kath. x

Will try that - don't know Great grandfarthers name as my own farther can't recall that info as he has suffered a stoke and he struggles to even remember much about his grandparents or when he was killed and not sure of their names either

Was sure that Alfred Westwood was born 1918, but again my own father can't recall that much, Alfred married Edith Melluish in approx 1939, Alfred died in either 1977 or 78, don't know anything more than that, only other thing is that Alfred's mother remarried after Alfred dad was killed in first world war and she became either a Norris or Warren - but again not too sure - only certainty is that Alfred's dad died before he was born

Managed to gain some info from my own father. Alfred wad born we think 14th Jan 1918, his father was killed before this, father could have been called eith Alfred or Edward but not too sure.

Joanne Sorry I only looked for the Navy as you said he'd died on a ship but there are a few Alfred & Edwards. I think as suggested earlier you need to send for your grandfathers birth certificate which will reveal the fathers name. Good luck Debby

Thanks - I'm just searching the CWGC site, have a funny feeling that all isn't what it seems, aftera ll my Grandfather would never talk about his father who died in the war or about his mother either,

I can't find Alfred Edward's birth either, nor anyone named Westwood with either of the possible mother's maiden name you mentioned....... As I have now run out of credit (lol) I thought another way might be to have a look for his death reg in the 1970's, but someone else will have to do it!!! The death index entry will give his date of birth (as supplied to the registrar by the informant, so might be wrong, but might be right) maybe your dad has remembered the wrong year?? Merry

Ok here goes date of birth now may have been 17/1/1918 for Alferd Westwood died in 1976 or 77, always told hid father had died before he was born in WW1, now looks very iffy, have searched the CWGC and can't find Westwood who died on a ship that could be the father, perhaps Alfred's mother made it all up and their never was a father in WW1 - strange, think I may have unearthed a skeleton in the family closet. Can anyone else shed any light on this.

Have you tried for his death reg?? Merry

Will try for death cert and marriage cert first thing Monday - totally confused and wished I hadn't started this now. Curiousity got the better of me after finding death cert's for my late mothers family thought I would try my fathers family but brick wall and head spring to mind. Do know his wifes dob was june 1916 but that's all, no grabe to see as they were cremeted and no dob are scribed.

If you can get the marriage certificate for Alfred and Edith's marriage, it should give you Alfred's father's name (and occupation). I had a look at the first two quarters of 1918 and couldn't see Alfred's birth there. If you buy some credits on Family Relatives you can search for Alfred Westwood births within a date range up to 1920, (though you can't search on middle initial), which might work out cheaper than 1837 online if you aren't sure of what year he was born. If you get his death cert it will only tell you when the informant thought he was born so it could be wrong. You should also be able to find Edith's birth on Family Relatives (or 1837 online). Good luck! Kate.

Hi Joanne, Have now managed to find both the birth and death references for your grandad:- Birth, Alfred Edward Westwood, mother's maiden name Welton March qtr. 1916, Ecclesall B, 9c, 703 Death, Alfred Edward Westwood March qtr. 1978, Sheffield, vol 3, page 1816, date of birth given as 15th Jan. 1916 Hope this helps. Kath. x

Have looked on 1837 for a death of an Alfred or Edward Westwood in the year before your grandfather's birth and for the qtr. after his birth, and there isn't one registered, but your grandfather's birth certificate will confirm whether you have the correct first name for his father. Kath. x

Kathleen - I came back to this thread in trepidation - but you have found him!!! That's brilliant! Joanne - So you see, having a rough idea of his birth date plus knowing when he died, has led to a sensible birth reg result even though the mother's maiden name is not what you thought (though it is quite similar, given your dad is having to remember things from so long ago). Without the death information it would have been much harder to confidently come up with this result. Hope the birth cert reveals a father's name that ties in with one of the Westwood's on the CWGC site. Good Luck Merry