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MARGARET BALL Here is 1901 For David & Eleanor & Children. ADDRESS:10 Union Street. Aberdare Glamorgan Name Estimated Birth Year Birthplace Relationship >>>David Evans abt 1852 Llanwynio, Carmarthenshire, Wales Head OCC:Miner. Elenor Evans abt 1860 Trefdraeth, Pembrokeshire, Wales Wife Maria Picton Evans abt 1890 Aberdare, Glamorgan, Wales Daughter Sarah Evans abt 1892 Aberdare, Glamorgan, Wales Daughter David G Evans abt 1895 Aberdare, Glamorgan, Wales Son Civil parish: Aberdare Ecclesiatical parish: St Fagan County/Island: Glamorgan Country: Wales Source information: RG13/5035 Registration district: Merthyr Tydfil Sub-registration district: Aberdare ED, institution, or vessel: 15 Folio: 17 Page: 25 ************************************* 1891 For Same Family ADDRESS:12 Union Street.Aberdare.Glamorgan Name Estimated Birth Year Birthplace Relationship to head-of-house >>>Evans, David abt 1853 Llamminnis, Carmarthenshire, Wales Head OCC:Coal Miner. Evans, Eleanor abt 1860 Newport, Pembrokeshire, Wales Wife Evans, Maria P abt 1890 Aberdare, Glamorgan, Wales Daughter Civil parish: Aberdare Ecclesiastical parish: St Fagans Town: Cwmdare County/Island: Glamorgan Source information: RG12/4443 Registration district: Merthyr Tydfil Sub registration district: Aberdare ED, institution, or vessel: 12 Folio: 50 Page: 15 Living in Same street maybe Related? 1891. ADDRESS:7 Union Street.Aberdare.Glamorgan. Name Estimated Birth Year Birthplace Relationship to head-of-house Evans, Evan abt 1854 Cilrhedyn, Carmarthenshire, Wales Head OCC: Coal Miner. Evans, Catherine abt 1853 Llanddewi Velfrey, Pembrokeshire, Wales Wife Evans, David abt 1880 Aberdare, Glamorgan, Wales Son ********************************************** Cant find them on 1881 sorry But hope these help Lesley :~)

TRUDY Sorry I have been so long but they are hard to trace I Have had another look at the 1901 Census I gave you before for Harry & Emma & when I looked on census I think his name says Henry.C..... Not Harry.C.. So I checked birth info and found this. Name: TOPP, Henry Charles Record Type: Births Quarter: March Year: 1861 District: Lambeth County: Greater London London Surrey Volume: 1d Page: 344 Lambeth Created 1st July 1837. In Surrey until 1889. Sub-districts : Brixton; KENNINGTON; Kennington First; Kennington Second; Lambeth Church; Lambeth Church First; Lambeth Church Second; Norwood; Stockwell; Waterloo Road; Waterloo Road First; Waterloo Road Second. GRO volumes : IV (1837-51); 1d (1852-1930). Lambeth. Registers now in Lambeth district. ************************************* I Have found a Birth for an Ellen Topp in Same place BUT its yr 1865.... I Have found 1871 with a Henry & Ellen Topp (States she is Deaf) they are Step Children including 3 other Siblings to Charles White & Wife Jane living in Hackney London. Could this be them do you think???? Its the closest I have come to finding them..... Lesley :~)

FRANCES Your very welcome.. Glad you now have some new info...isnt it exciting :~) If you need anything else just ask and I will gladly take a look for you Lesley :~)

RIGHT Im off to bed now I will be back on Tomorrow and continue with searches. Goodnight all Lesley :~)

Hi Lesley - mmm interesting ! Maybe I should send for Henry's birth cert to get the parents names as he is definitely Ellen's brother. I know Ellen was born in 1859. If that is her with stepfather in 1871 she would have been 12, does it state her age ? Also if her mother was Jane does that make it easier to find her birth (father George) in Kensington or Kennington ? How about looking for her on 1881 census - I know she married in June 1881 but believe census was in April ? Sorry to rattle on, just thinking as I'm typing. If you can answer any of those questions I would be so grateful, but understand it may be a pain. Thanks so much .... Trudy P.S. had no idea she was deaf !!

Hi Lesley, A great big thank you, you are a gem. I will have to see about getting all my certificates now. I am almost certain they are my family. you do not know how much I appreciate all you have done. Good health and happiness to you and your family. Kind regards Margaret .

Lesley, Many Many Thanks for your assistance,it is appreciated. My Regards, Thelma.

Hi Lesley, Many thanks for 1861 details. Any sign of a marriage for Elizabeth ? and Thomas Winterbottom before 1837 yet? Don't know where they married, Yorkshire or Lincolnshire. They are not showing on LDS. Thanks again, Margaret X

hi lesley looking for marriage of a james naylor in 1881 census he was 21 years ol d his wife mary was 20 years old they were living at ct 1 h1 rough bank sheffield and if possible the birth of james naylor any help much appreciated ron

good afternoon ma'am housework no probs rabbits easy peasy daughter to school thats going to far can i do extra iroing instead your servant john

Evening all lmao John ok Ironing it is lol Lesley :~)

TRUDY I already looked for Ellen on 1881 and cant find her...yes 1881 taken 3rd April.. On 1871 with Possible Step-Father she is 12 yrs old. Do you want that info for reference incase its her? I would suggest you send for Henry's Birth Certificate and get Parents names... Lesley :~)

MARGARET BALL....THELMA & CLIFF Thanxs for your Thanxs its nice to know the look ups are appreciated and help put another piece of the jigsaw together for you. If you need anything else just shout and I will gladly take a look Regards Lesley :~)

MARGARET IN LANCASHIRE Your welcome for 1861 :~) Sorry Pallotts Marriage pre-1837 only covers London and I have not got access to anything else pre-1837 sorry Lesley :~(

Hi Lesley I'm pretty sure the 1871 info is them, so would be grateful for the image - thanks. As you say, I will order the birth cert for Henry and take it from there. You have been so helpful and thorough in your look ups - I know I speak for others when I say you are AWESOME !! We do appreciate it !! Regards Trudy

RONALD This is James Birth Name: Naylor, James Record Type: Births Quarter: June Year: 1859 District: Sheffield County: South Yorkshire West Riding of Yorkshire Volume: 9c Page: 349 There is only 1 marriage showing for James Naylor in 1873 Sheffield making him 13...there are 3 men and 2 women on page and none are Mary... I will take a look elsewhere and get back in a moment Lesley :~) UPDATE No sorry cant find any marriage in Sheffield for James & Mary sorry :~(

LYNN Sorry I couldnt help you with your kirby's If you need anything else just shout Lesley :~)

TRUDY Here is 1871 ADDRESS:19 Cant read street sorry.Hackney London Name Estimated Birth Year Birthplace Relationship Charles White abt 1839 Clapton, Middlesex, England Head OCC: Engine Driver Railway. Jane White abt 1830 London, Middlesex, England Wife >>>William Topp abt 1855 Islington, Middlesex, England Stepson OCC:Groom. >>>Jane Topp abt 1857 Islington, Middlesex, England Stepdaughter Scholar >>>Ellen Topp abt 1859 Stepney, Middlesex, England Stepdaughter Scholar. (Deaf) >>>Henry Topp abt 1861 Lambeth, Surrey, England Stepson Scholar. >>>Elizabeth Topp abt 1863 Lambeth, Surrey, England Stepdaughter Scholar. Charles White abt 1869 Shacklewell, Middlesex, England Son Civil Parish or Township: Hackney Ecclesiastical parish: Homerton St Barnabas County/Island: London Country: England Source information: RG10/327 Registration district: Hackney Sub-registration district: West Hackney ED, institution, or vessel: 33 Folio: 29 Page: 51 I hope this is them Thanxs for 'Awesome' lol I wouldnt go that far lol but thanxs :~) Lesley :~)

Hi Lesley Thanks again - will no doubt be in touch again soon ! Trudy

TRUDY Your welcome Let me know when you get Henry's Certificate and see if we can find Ellen.... If you need any others looking up just shout I will gladly take a look . Regards Lesley :~)