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I have burial records for Greenway Road Cemetery please give as much detail as possible and i will look for you

Hi i hope you can help i am looking for a buriel of Frank Herbert Hughes born 1881 and died june 1945 he died in greenway road
Hope you can help
Thanks
Gill

Gillian - Lea posted back in 2005 and unlikely to be looking for replies now - you could try to make contact via GR by clicking on the name to send a message

Hi Gill / Lea. Did anything come of this thread - Frank Herbert Hughes / cemetery records for Greenway Road? I believe the aforementioned to be my great grandfather wh I have been looking to research without much success. He lived at 59 Greenway Road around this time. Regards Roger

Roger
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He was at 59 Greenway Road in 1939, with wife Fanny and son Frank N.

Is it ONLY his burial you are looking for?

What research have you done thus far?

Have you worked back from yourself using free-to-all BMD records - and purchasing certs to verify?

https://www.freebmd.org.uk/cgi/search.pl
https://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/indexes_search.asp

You say you ‘believe’ the named man to be your relation. What leads you to this supposition?

Have you tried contacting Halton Borough Council, who operate the local cemeteries, including Runcorn Cemetery - entrances on Greenway Road and Langdale Road ?

0303 333 4300
[email protected]


ADDED:
Deceased Online apparently has all the Halton BC cemetery records - although Frank's name doesn't appear on a free search.


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Burial Register summary
last name - Hughes
Burial date - 19 May 1945
Location - Cheshire

ADDED MORE:
The burial above is NOT Frank's, per ErikaH's later post (at 13:42) , showing that Frank died in June - therefore obviously not buried in May.

But it could still be worth while contacting Halton Borough council, especially now that you have Frank's date of death - see ErikaH's post .

1921 Census Of England & Wales
30, Wellington Street, Runcorn, Cheshire, England

Frank Herbert Hughes Head Male 1882 39 Widnes, Lancashire, England Manager Boot & Shoe Department Runcorn & Widnes Cooperative Society
Fanny Hughes Wife Female 1885 35 Widnes, Lancashire, England Home Duties -
Walter James Hughes Son Male 1906 15 Widnes, Lancashire, England Laboratory Boy (Chemical) High Speed Steel Alloys (Out Of Work) Steel Alloy Mfrs
Frank Noel Hughes Son Male 1910 11 Runcorn, Cheshire, England - -
Millicent Hughes Daughter Female 1913 7 Runcorn, Cheshire, England - -

1939 Register
59 Greenway Road, Runcorn, Runcorn U.D., Cheshire, England
Frank H Hughes 15 Dec 1881 Male Manager Boot Dept 2 & W Co-Operative Society Married 204 1
Fanny Hughes 20 Aug 1885 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Married 204 2
Frank N Hughes 25 Dec 1909 Male Shop Assistant Civs Butchery R & W Co-Operative Ser Single 204 3
Harry Jones 03 Dec 1909 Male ??? Married 204 4
Millicent Lawton (Jones) 06 Jul 1913 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Married 204 5
Herbert Myes 12 Nov 1874 Male General Labourer Widowed 204 6

HUGHES, FRANK NOEL BRIARS
GRO Reference: 1910 M Quarter in RUNCORN Volume 08A Page 207

HUGHES, WALTER JAMES BRIERS
GRO Reference: 1906 M Quarter in PRESCOT Volume 08B Page 750

HUGHES, MILICENT BRIERS
GRO Reference: 1913 S Quarter in RUNCORN Volume 08A Page 433


1939 Register
3 Mason Avenue, Widnes, Widnes M.B., Lancashire, England
Walter James Hughes 07 Jan 1906 Male Chemist (Laboratory Artificial Building Material) Married 60 1
Bessie K Hughes 25 May 1911 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Married 60 2

Marriages Mar 1938 (>99%)
Hughes Walter J Myers Runcorn 8a 460
Myers Bessie K Hughes Runcorn 8a 460


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Births Sep 1945 (>99%)
Hughes Kathryn (MMN) Myers Prescot 8b 958

The burial posted by AG has no recorded forename and is in Blacon Cemetery

Marriages Jun 1938 (>99%)
Hughes Milicent Jones Runcorn 8a 776
Jones Harry Hughes Runcorn 8a 776


Marriages 1987
JONES MILLICENT LAWTON HALTON 35 656
LAWTON JOHN H JONES HALTON 35 656

Deaths 1989 (>99%)
LAWTON MILICENT 6JY1913 HALTON 35 670

Lawton
Millicent
Died 07/10/1989
England & Wales Government Probate Death Index 1858-2019
Runcorn, Cheshire, England

From a tree on Ancestry, which seems - for once - to be well-researched

Frank Herbert Hughes
1881–1945
Birth 15 DEC 1881 • Widnes, Lancashire, England
Death 4 JUN 1945 • Runcorn, Cheshire, England

Also from Ancestry
Name Frank Herbert Hughes
Death Date 4 Jun 1945
Death Place Cheshire, England
Probate Date 17 Aug 1945
Probate Registry Chester, England
Probate to Widow, Fanny

Her death


Name Fanny Hughes
Death Age 69
Birth Date abt 1885
Registration Quarter Jan-Feb-Mar 1954
Registration District Runcorn
Inferred County Cheshire
Volume 10a Page 560

Walter James Hughes died in 1974 in St Asaph district, Flintshire, which fits with marriage of Hughes and Pointon in 1969

Incidentally, Herbert Mye(r)s on 1939 with the Hughes family was the father of Bessie

Hello and thanks everybody (particularly Erica) for all your extremely helpful input, details and advice. The details all accord with my knowledge of my great grandfather FH Hughes of 59 Greenway Road. Thanks AG for contact details for Halton BC with whom I will make contact to find the location of grave of FH Hughes believed to be in Runcorn Cemetery also on Greenway Road.

My ultimate interest is in relation to FH Hughes’s military service in WW1. Unfortunately beyond the above census information I have nothing at all to go on - no information concerning enlistment, regiment or service records etc. if anyone has any knowledge of enlistment generally during the First World War in the Runcorn area that would certainly be of interest to me. Thanks Roger

Unfortunately, the majority of WW1 service records have not survived.

Maybe ??? -

Francis H Hughes
in the UK, British Army World War I Medal Rolls Index Cards, 1914-1920
Name Francis H Hughes
Military Date 1914-1920
Military Place England, Wales, Scotland, Ireland, United Kingdom
Regiment or Corps The Royal Welsh (Welch) Fusiliers
Regimental Number 55438

Enlisted 8/12/1916.
Discharged 22/5/1917

No other identifying details on that card.


EDIT:

NO - from another record, that man's middle name was Henry.

What information do you have which leads you to think he served during WW1?

No records on FMP which fit his details, although as AG so rightly says, only around 30% of WW1 records actually exist.

If there is no medal card then it is unlikely that Frank was in the Army. Presumably the FMP search means he didn’t serve in the Navy either.

Not everyone served in the armed forces. He could even have been sent down the mines.

Could his occupation indicate that he may have been in a reserved occupation. Have you checked the electoral rolls - if the occupant is named then there is usually a mark to show that they were away in the services.

He was a Shop manager - as per Census and Register records posted above

Ok - only glanced through.

If the electoral rolls doesn’t give a clue then the Lives of The First World War .org seems to have a list of conscientious objectors which would need checking, just in case. Might also be worth checking the local papers to see if his name crops up.

Well never know if he didn’t serve because he failed the medical for something that seems quite insignificant to us.

Added: the Cheshire Archives have the 1911-53 reports and balance sheets for the Coop.Something may show up in those. The Runcorn Historical society has a copy of the Coop centenary book which goes from around the 1860’s. He could crop up in that.