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My Family tree is a present to my sister for Christmas, I have gone back generations on my Mothers side, but my Fathers-brick wall-what I need is parents of William Irwin-born in Ireland-oooh!!! I can almost hear the groans-in 1851 ish married to Jane Mc Combs-lived in Heworth, Durham, England-I desperately need his parents names-both born somewhere in Ireland, I believe he had a sister called Sarah born about 1856-tried all the suggested sites and nothing-can anybody help please!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Hi Jennifer, Not sure if I can help. Where in Ireland and what year was he born ? Regards Vera

This is my problem, I do not know-guess the year to be about 1830 ish - but truly a guess, have searched high and low-nothing - County Tyrone came up somewhere, but family tell me Armagh-is that spelt right-honestly lost here-just gone back to g/g/ grandad William as I said he moved to Heworth, Durham, married a Jane Mc Combs in 1886 and I think died in 1899-but nothing has his parents details on-again a guess-but the family seem to favour David and William as Christian names, and as I think his sister is Sarah, perhaps that is his Mothers name-I honestly am stuck-tried every avenue I know but only been doing this for 6 months-seems like an eternity-thanks for replying anyway-jennifer.

His marriage cert (Gateshead Dec 1886 10a 1055) will give you his father's name Peter

And this could be his family in 1881- read the last line!!! Household: Name Relation Marital Status Gender Age Birthplace Occupation Disability Hugh IRWIN Head M Male 50 Ireland Coalminer Jane IRWIN Wife M Female 50 Ireland William J. IRWIN Son U Male 30 Ireland Coalminer George IRWIN Son U Male 28 Ireland Coalminer Hugh IRWIN Son U Male 21 Ireland Coalminer James IRWIN Son U Male 20 Ireland Coalminer Thomas IRWIN Son U Male 18 Ireland Coalminer Bella IRWIN Daur U Female 16 Ireland Scholar Samuel IRWIN Son Male 14 Ireland Coalminer Elizabeth IRWIN Daur Female 12 Ireland Scholar Sarah IRWIN Daur Female 10 Ireland Scholar Mitalda IRWIN Daur Female 6 Durham, England Scholar In which case Matilda's birth cert will give you Jane's maiden name

Matilda Irwin birth Jun Q 1875 Tynemouth 10b 215

....blimey! got another matilda in 1891 - his daughter View Record Irwin, Elizabeth abt 1870 Ireland Daughter West Herrington Durham View Record Irwin, George abt 1853 Ireland Son West Herrington Durham View Record Irwin, Hugh abt 1831 Ireland Head West Herrington Durham View Record Irwin, Jane abt 1830 Ireland Wife West Herrington Durham View Record Irwin, Matilda abt 1875 West Rainton, Durham, England Daughter West Herrington Durham View Record Irwin, Sarah abt 1872 Ireland Daughter West Herrington Durham View Record Irwin, William J abt 1852 Ireland Head West Herrington Durham ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Hang on - 2nd household (next door) William is a widower though View Record Irwin, William J abt 1852 Ireland Head West Herrington Durham View Record Irwin, Matilda abt 1885 New Herrington, Durham, England Daughter West Herrington Durham View Record Irwin, Hugh abt 1882 New Herrington, Durham, England Son West Herrington View Record Irwin, Thomas abt 1864 Ireland Brother West Herrington Durham ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- just for clarifiation... Houghton le Spring Created 1st July 1837. Sub-districts : Hetton le Hole; Houghton le Spring. GRO volumes : XXIV (1837-51); 10a (1852-1930). East and Middle Herrington, East Rainton, Great Eppleton, Hetton le Hole, Houghton le Spring, Little Eppleton, Moor House, Moorsley, Morton Grange, Newbottle, Offerton, Penshaw, Silksworth, Warden Law, West Herrington, West Rainton. Name: Irwin, Matilda< will confim mothers name Record Type: Births Quarter: March Year: 1885 District: Houghton le Spring County: Co. Durham Volume: 10a Page: 453

Jennifer?

Hi Jennifer, Been on the IGI William Irwin born 20 Apr. 1832. Eglish Parish, Armagh Father William Irwin. mother Anne ? You might have already seen this. Regards Vera

thank you all wow what a gift words cnnot express trying to digest allt this ifo thank you so very mcuh you will never know how much this means to me god bless you all

Vera - which is that one? our william wasnt born until much later and his father is HUGH and his Mother is JANE

Hi Jess, I read the thread that William Irwin married in 1851 to Jane and that Jennifer wants to know his parents names, she stated he was born about 1830ish in Ireland. Have I got it wrong? Regards Vera

William BORN 1852 -i think- married a Jane . (who very inconveniently died before the next census) William BORN 1851 had parents HUGH and JANE - think we have found them above

Hi Jess, When I asked Jennifer the date she thought he might have been born the second reply down, she said 1830 ish. Regards Vera

1881 again William MCCOMBS Head M Male 51 Ireland Chemical Labourer Samuel MCCOMBS Son U Male 20 Felling Heworth Jane MCCOMBS Daur Female 15 Ireland

and 1871 David McCoombs abt 1864 Heworth, Durham, England Son Heworth Durham Edith McCoombs abt 1870 Heworth, Durham, England Daughter Heworth Durham Elizabeth McCoombs abt 1868 Heworth, Durham, England Daughter Heworth Durham >Jane McCoombs abt 1866 Ireland Daughter Heworth Durham Mary A McCoombs abt 1863 Heworth, Durham, England Daughter Heworth Durham Samuel McCoombs abt 1861 Heworth, Durham, England Son Heworth Durham Susan J McCoombs abt 1840 Ireland Wife Heworth Durham William McCoombs abt 1830 Ireland Head Heworth Durham **maybe Elizabeths death Name: McCOMBS, Elizabeth Record Type: Deaths Age at death: 10 Quarter: September Year: 1878 District: Gateshead County: Co. Durham Tyne and Wear Volume: 10a Page: 490 (click

and 1861- pre Jane of course John Ervin abt 1838 Ireland Boarder Heworth Durham Samuel McCombs abt 1860 Felling, Durham, England Son Heworth Durham Susan Jane McCombs abt 1836 Ireland Wife Heworth Durham William McCombs abt 1831 Ireland Head Heworth Durham James Parks abt 1824 Ireland Boarder Heworth Durham

Thank you to everyone who has helped me here. Definitely right Mc Combs and am sifting through the rest and wil get it added to my tree in time for Christmas -but doubt I will get any certs before then-Can you tell me how I can join my sister on GR from my computer-so she can just turn hers on Christmas Day and I can e-mail her to take a look. Off to make a cuppa be back very soon - thank you all and hope you have a Happy Christmas. Think of me at work all Christmas.-gratefully Jennifer.

Im not sure that you can , although i dont see why if you know her e-mail address and use her christian name as her password, then send her a message with access to your tree, that it wouldnt work. She doesnt have to be a member to view you tree if you grant her permission

Thanks for that Jess, I thought she had to be member, sorry if I sound thick, but been icing dam christmas cakes all week at work and with Sunday lunch as well today, my minds puddled-took print outs from genes to ponder over in my break - but never managed a proper break-so how will my sister Pat get to see my tree? Well it will be hers by then - or maybe ours cos I think I am hooked - jennifer.