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Hi Thanks to Sue I got this family I had been looking for in 1901. 1901 John H M Turner abt 1900 Southley Kn, Northumberland, England Son Fenton Staffordshire >>John T Turner abt 1865 Stoke Upon Trent, Staffordshire, England Head Fenton Staffordshire Potters Warehouseman >>Martha E Turner abt 1867 Fenton, Staffordshire, England Wife Fenton Staffordshire Sarah M Turner abt 1899 Stoke Upon Trent, Staffordshire, England Daughter Fenton Staffordshire They did not get married untill 1897 Martha Emma Rowley and John Thomas Turner could anyone try to find them in 1891 for me so I can find out who their parents and maybe Siblings are. Thank you very much Zoe

Can't find a Martha Rowley that matches your details. Looked for Marthas born 1867 +/- a year in Fenton and got: Bannister, Martha abt 1867 Fenton, Staffordshire, England Servant Stoke upon Trent Staffordshire Beardmore, Martha abt 1868 Fenton, Staffordshire, England Daughter Stoke upon Trent Staffordshire Chadwell, Martha abt 1867 Fenton, Staffordshire, England Wife Burslem Staffordshire Cooke, Martha Ellen abt 1867 Fenton, Staffordshire, England Wife Eccles Lancashire Leigh, Martha J abt 1866 Fenton, Staffordshire, England Wife Stoke upon Trent Staffordshire McGraw, Martha abt 1867 Fenton, Staffordshire, England Wife Stoke upon Trent Staffordshire Thorley, Martha abt 1866 Fenton, Staffordshire, England Daughter Stoke upon Trent Staffordshire nell

It may not be Fenton as they like to state the place where they were as the place they were born for some reason-had that a few times. Are there any Martha Rowleys in the staffs area +/- 5 years of her birth year? Zoe

I've found this possible in 1881, though not born Fenton. She has a brother called Thomas.: 31 Salop Street (Ash Inn), Bridgnorth St Leonard, Shropshire, William Rowley abt 1832 Aston Eyres, Shropshire,Head Anne Rowley abt 1831 Bridgnorth, Shropshire,Wife Annie Rowley abt 1854 Tasley, Shropshire, Daughter Thomas Rowley abt 1859 Tasley, Shropshire,Son Henry Rowley abt 1861 Tasley, Shropshire, Son Betsey Rowley abt 1863 Tasley, Shropshire, Daughter >>>>>Martha Rowley abt 1867 Bridgnorth, Shropshire,Daughter Margaret Rowley abt 1870 Bridgnorth, Shropshire,Daughter Fanny Rowley abt 1873 Bridgnorth, Shropshire, Daughter nell

is this John in 1891 View Record Turner, Henry J abt 1867 Stoke, Staffordshire, England Son Stoke upon Trent Staffordshire View Record Turner, John T abt 1865 Stoke, Staffordshire, England Son Stoke upon Trent Staffordshire View Record Turner, Mary abt 1825 Great Gate, Staffordshire, England Head Stoke upon Trent Staffordshire Jim

Thanks will keep those details handy for when marriage cert gets ordered and get her fathers name! Is she in the 1891 census Helen? Any census info on John Thomas Turner at all he probably will be easier to find Thanks for your help Zoe

What is his job please Jim Zoe

He's a Potter's warehouseman here he is in 1881 View Record George Turner abt 1826 Buxton, Derbyshire, England Head 37 Peel Street, Stoke Upon Trent, Staffordshire, England View Record James Henry Turner abt 1868 Fenton, Staffordshire, England Son 37 Peel Street, Stoke Upon Trent, Staffordshire, England View Record John Thomas Turner abt 1865 Fenton, Staffordshire, England Son 37 Peel Street, Stoke Upon Trent, Staffordshire, England View Record Mary Turner abt 1825 Gt Gate, Staffordshire, England Wife 37 Peel Street, Stoke Upon Trent, Staffordshire, England Jim

That's the one Jim fantastic thankyou Zoe

and here's 1871 View Record Edith L Turner abt 1861 Fenton, Staffordshire, England Daughter Fenton Staffordshire View Record Eliza Turner abt 1851 Shelton, Staffordshire, England Daughter Fenton Staffordshire View Record George Turner abt 1826 Buxton, Derbyshire, England Head Fenton Staffordshire View Record George Turner abt 1855 Shelton, Staffordshire, England Son Fenton Staffordshire View Record Henry James Turner abt 1868 Fenton, Staffordshire, England Son Fenton Staffordshire View Record John Thos Turner abt 1865 Fenton, Staffordshire, England Son Fenton Staffordshire View Record Mary Turner abt 1824 Great Gate, Staffordshire, England Wife Fenton Staffordshire View Record William Turner abt 1857 Fenton, Staffordshire, England Son Fenton Staffordshire Jim

Could this be your lady? View Record William Dudley abt 1851 Stoke Upon Trent, Staffordshire, England Lodger Penkhull Staffordshire View Record Amy Rowley abt 1855 Stoke Upon Trent, Staffordshire, England Daughter Penkhull Staffordshire View Record Martha Rowley abt 1815 Stoke Upon Trent, Staffordshire, England Head Penkhull Staffordshire View Record Martha Rowley abt 1865 Stoke Upon Trent, Staffordshire, England Daughter Penkhull Staffordshire View Record Sarah Rowley abt 1851 Stoke Upon Trent, Staffordshire, England Daughter Penkhull Staffordshire Jim

Thanks Jim just looking at those census results it seems John Thomas was born Fenton not Stoke ooooeeeeeeerrr they love doing this don't they! - oh well makes it more fun. Thanks again Zoe

OOhhh Jim Sure could be how excited am I now when is that from? Zoe

that's 1871

Thanks Jim Zoe

This one is also 1871 - could be a red herring but strange co-incidence View Record Martha Emma Rowley abt 1860 Tunstall, Staffordshire, England Granddaughter Tunstall Staffordshire View Record Emma Turner abt 1811 Burslem, Staffordshire, England Wife Tunstall Staffordshire View Record John Turner abt 1811 Burslem, Staffordshire, England Head Tunstall Staffordshire Jim

OOhhh very strange coincidink will have to look at that Zoe

Here's 1881 View Record Martha Emma Rowley abt 1860 Tunstall, Staffordshire, England Granddaughter Tunstall Staffordshire View Record Emma Turner abt 1811 Burslem, Staffordshire, England Wife Tunstall Staffordshire View Record John Turner abt 1811 Burslem, Staffordshire, England Head Tunstall Staffordshire

Very odd but you never know it may be her Zoe

in 1891 - she's visiting somebody - she's a potter's paintress. Can't find her in 1901 - so maybe she got married. You never know Happy hunting Jim