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A reply to you all, yes all credit to you, without you I wouldnt have all this info, it means a lot, I actually knew my mother as my aunt all my life & so wish we could have reconciled, love to you all for helping, Lou XX

Elaine, It's really good to help isn't it. However, I think Louise had a lot of the information and just needed confirmation of a lot of it. Still don't think she will be able to get a death certificate without the exact date of death, as it's recent. Don't know if she actually needs it though. Kath. x

Take the credit girls. You HAVE done a very good job with this one ... it's been eating away at us all for days. REALLY WELL DONE :-))) Poster (Louise): So glad that you were eventually given the information you needed so badly.. Round of applause ! Elaine ;-)

Just to clarify.. it's HOUSMAN not HOUSEMAN... No E no doubt pronounced the same, but the spelling will be important Sam

Kath, The 1 you had in the first place is the right one, it was definately houseman? Louise

There is also another birth for a Judith A. Wright, mother's maiden name Jeffrey, although it is not in the Don Valley area. This is the reference just in case:- Sept. qtr. 1947, E. Elloo (or E. Elloe), 3b, 97 Although on saying that, the death record does not give a middle initial, it's just Judith Gilling. Kath. x

Oh don't, you'll have us all blubbing!

Thankyou, Thankyou, you are all really great friends, dont know what I would do without you, my feelings are overwhelming for what you all do for me, Thanks to Sam & Kath especially. lOUISE xx.

Lou Was your mum's maiden name Wright or Ellis? I seem to remember you mentioning the name Housman too?? There is a birth for JUDITH WRIGHT (no middle name) Sept quarter 1947 Mother's maiden name: Housman Don Valley 2b 709

I got the £50 for a year offer Kath, but I took advantage of the cooling off period when Ancestry updated, and got a refund. It's still good to have 1837 credits Sam

Hi Sam, I'm lucky (or unlucky) that my son spent £25 on credits with the Christmas offer, without realising that Ancestry would have the bmd's on so soon. I think he was a bit put out!! Kath. x

There you go Lou RESULT!!!!!! A date of birth for your birth mother!

Oh Kath!!! Behave! I've narrowed it down to her year of birth being 1947... it is frustrating not having any credits. sam

Sorry Sam, Was just coming back as I clicked births by mistake. Be back in a minute. UPDATE - Birth date 13th August 1947 Death reference Feb. 2004, North Yorkshire, District No. 6501S, Reg No. S6, Entry no. 030, Dor 204 Kath. x

There is Kath... I'm looking at it! Results There is 1 entry that matches the search criteria that you entered. You only have 0 units remaining. You can purchase more units by clicking here. Buy Units Search Criteria used Event Deaths Date range from February 2004 Date range to February 2004 Surname GILLING Forename 1 JUDITH - Occurring in First Name only Forename 2 Not specified Initial 3 Not specified Initial 4 Not specified District Not specified Birth date Not specified Sam

I've checked on 1837online, now that the 2004 entries are on there, but there is no death of a Judith Gilling in 2004. Kath. x

So you think Judith's surname at death was GILLING..is that right?If so, there is one death entry on 1837 for JUDITH GILLING in Feb 2004. I do not have credits to view the entry though Sam

Maiden names have been on women's death certs since at least 1987. nell

Yes I am after Judiths mothers MMN, as I was given a birth for judith with MMn as Wright but I thought this was her mothers married name, so need to find birth & then can look for death, have I got that right, still cannot find anything though.

I had an email from 1837 today _____________________________________________________ I can confirm that the 2004 birth and death data has now been added to the site and the 2004 marriage data will be added next week. Kind regards Steve Johnstone Customer Services 1837online ____________________________________________________ I advised Louise that she should now be able to find her birth mother's death in 2004, thus giving her an exact DOB Sam