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Thankyou Jeanette Brian.

Hi Brian As Ian has said, the first step would be to look at the parish registers for John's birth. This will tell you who his parents were. You would then be able to see if the names coincide with those given here from the IGI and the censuses. The PR's would also give the names of any of John's siblings that may have been Christened in Shute too. There may also be a chance that John's parents married in the same parish. If they did, you would then have John's mother's maiden name too. The Parish Records would be held in the Records Office nearest to the parish of Shute, or the Devon County Records Office. If you are unable to get to the RO, you could either ask on this board if anyone is going and willing to do a look up for you, or you could ring the RO yourself and ask about their rates for searching the PR's and take it from there. Jeanette x

Thanks Mhairi. Brian.

Thanks Penny, JOSEPH was a labourer on the certificate. I am almost certain He would have been a farm labourer. Brian.

Hey If John was married in 1842 then he might not have been at home with his parents in the 1851 but living with his own family so the entry Georgina found may be correct. As its been mentioned by Penny - if his occupation is mentioned on the marriage cert then it may help you to find Joseph on the census's. Hope you find them Mhairi

Thanks to everyone for helping.

Thanks Vera, It could have been.

OK, Well, rather than have other well meaning souls running around doing look ups and not saying whgere they are from, try it yourself at www.familysearch.org. then theres www.familyhistoryonline.net. google for your local records office or use genuki to find it, and contact them to see what help is available.

Brian , These ' brickwalls 'are so frustrating. :-) As far as you know Josephs son was definitely John....you know what these ancestors are like, could it have been Joseph John, and he just used John??? Just a thought. Regards Vera

HI ian, I'm quite new at this, others have been helping Me, so not sure.

I am told Vera He didn't have a son called JOHN.

Hi Brian. On the IGI there is another Joseph Trivett born 31st Mar 1787 Shute Devon father Richard Trevett or Trivett mother Sarah Purss ?? Any good? Regards Vera

ref reply no. 1. Have you tried and failed via these?

Brian you could do with an 1841 census look-up, sorry I dont have access. Georgina.

It could be Georgina, but it doesn't mention John, so as to be sure.

I'm not sure Jess, I haven't been able to connect the two of them. Only the marriage cert' it's all I have. Brian.

Brian is this him on the 1851 census? Eliza Trivett abt 1842 Exeter, Devon, England Granddaughter Shute Devon Joseph Trivett abt 1805 Shute, Devon, England Head Shute Devon Mary Trivett abt 1821 Shute, Devon, England Daughter Shute Devon Source information: HO107/1862 Registration district: Axminster Sub-registration district: Lyme ED, institution, or vessel: 1a Folio: 504 Page: 13 (click to see others on page) Household schedule number: 53 GSU Number: 221009-221010 Georgina.

Quite a few Trivett baptisms,marriages and eaths on familyhistoryonline website. Suzanne

so , was john Josephs first born??

I you can find Joseph Trivetts death the informant may well be his wife? Suzanne