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Harry Kalthoeber born 1859, married 1893

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Ronald

Ronald Report 19 Apr 2006 23:23

I am looking for the birth reference for the above and his possible death between 1893 and 1901. I've searched Freebmd but to no avail. I have him on the 1891 census but can't find him on 1901 so assume he died. Any advice gratefully received Ron

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 19 Apr 2006 23:28

All bmd's are free on Ancestry........you need the beta records. Bear in mind that registration wasn't compulsory until 1875 Reg

Teresa

Teresa Report 19 Apr 2006 23:31

FreeBMD Marriage Index: 1837-1983 Annie Brooks 1893 Oct-Nov-Dec Pancras (1837-1901) London, Middlesex Georgina Duck 1893 Oct-Nov-Dec Pancras (1837-1901) London, Middlesex Harry Kalthoeber 1893 Oct-Nov-Dec Pancras (1837-1901) London, Middlesex James Smithson Williamson 1893 Oct-Nov-Dec Pancras (1837-1901) London, Middlesex just looking to see which one

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 19 Apr 2006 23:31

Have you found his widow in 1901? Reg

Cougarjo

Cougarjo Report 19 Apr 2006 23:31

Harry Basham Kalthoeber Marylebone 1 a 346 June Quarter 1859 joanne if you send me a message with your email addy i'll send you the image so you can double check spelling etc.

Teresa

Teresa Report 19 Apr 2006 23:32

1901 England Census View Record Ada Duck abt 1881 Islington, London, England Daughter St Pancras London View Record Charles Duck abt 1879 Islington, London, England Son St Pancras London View Record Lily Duck abt 1883 Marylebone, London, England Daughter St Pancras London View Record Annie Kalthoeber abt 1861 Bristol Head St Pancras London View Record Harry Kalthoeber abt 1894 St Pancras, London, England Son St Pancras London View Record Horace Kalthoeber abt 1897 St Pancras, London, England Son St Pancras London Looks like Annie Brooks

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 19 Apr 2006 23:34

He married Annie..she's a widow in 1901............and very strangely, she has three little Ducks...........bearing in mind the other marriage on the page!! Reg

Ronald

Ronald Report 19 Apr 2006 23:41

Thanks everyone That's a real puzzle with the little Ducks, especially, as you say Reggie, considering the marriage ref to Georgina Duck. I think I must obtain the marriage cert. Ron

Cougarjo

Cougarjo Report 19 Apr 2006 23:43

Just going through the death indexes.... not sure if this is one of yours......... Death March Quarter 1900 Kalthoeber, Lettice, age 78, district: Pancras, volume 1b page 4

Ronald

Ronald Report 19 Apr 2006 23:44

Joanne That's the correct birth ref as I have other 'Basham' relatives. Thanks for info. Reggie Can't figure out where Harry senior is in 1901, but junior is with mother Annie

Cougarjo

Cougarjo Report 19 Apr 2006 23:51

another Kalthoeber death for you... William Napoleon Kalthoeber, age 79, pancras, volume 1b page 10 June quarter 1896

Ronald

Ronald Report 19 Apr 2006 23:52

Joanne Yes, Lettice is one of mine and I had that death ref thanks Reg If Annie is a widow why can't I find death ref for Harry senior between 1893 and 1901, unless of course he's been mistranscribed? Regards All Off to bed now

Ronald

Ronald Report 19 Apr 2006 23:54

Thanks again Joanne I have most of the Kalthoeber bmds but can't find Harry senior. Most grateful for your help nonetheless. Ron

Ronald

Ronald Report 20 Apr 2006 08:11

Thanks Ozibird Just off to work but very grateful for your additional input. Will ponder over it tonight Regards Ron

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 20 Apr 2006 11:01

The Ducks on 1901 are sons/daughters of Annie, so she must have been a Duck before she was a Brooks........... Reg

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 20 Apr 2006 11:17

Mmmmmmmmmmm..................1891 Ada Duck abt 1881 Islington, London, England Daughter St Pancras London View Record Georgina Duck abt 1860 Bristol, Gloucestershire, England Head St Pancras London View Record Lily Duck abt 1883 Marylebone, London, England Daughter St Pancras London View Record William Duck abt 1879 Islington, London, England Son St Pancras London The plot thickens.............I've saved the image for 1901........if you'd like me to forward it, send e-mail details via PM Reg

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 20 Apr 2006 11:45

No, nor I............but the 1901 is very intriguing...... Reg

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 20 Apr 2006 12:07

Annie's occupation on 1901 was Duster Reg

Ronald

Ronald Report 20 Apr 2006 23:28

Ozibird and Reggie Thanks for your continued interest in this. I must confess to being a little confused at the moment and need to sit in a darkend room!! Will consider it further at the weekend. Reggie I would be interested in seeing the 1901 image and have sent you a PM. Most grateful Regards Ron

Ronald

Ronald Report 13 May 2006 22:39

I have now obtained the marriage certificate of Harry Kalthoeber for 1893. Contrary to what I and others on this thread had expected when I first started it, he married Georgina Duck, not Annie Brooks, on 8 October 1893. He was 34, a bachelor, a carver and gilder and his father was William Napoleon Kalthoeber. She was also 34, a widow and her father was Thomas Cooper. Can someone please help me unravel the details on this thread as I have to say I'm totally confused at the moment. To make matters more intriguing I also have a census reference (can't find it at the moment) for another kalthoeber ancestor where Brook(s) is shown as a middle name. Ron