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1851 and 1861 lookups please plus a BMD?

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Darksecretz

Darksecretz Report 7 May 2006 16:25

jane, please remember that death certs arent always right, it depends on the person giving the info at time of death, but at least if you do get it, the death cert, you'd have an idea who informant was, you may be lucky it could be one of daughters maybe married? all best with your searches, if you need anything else please message me Julie x

JaneFrance

JaneFrance Report 7 May 2006 16:08

Thanks again. It looks like the second one is about right Jane

Darksecretz

Darksecretz Report 7 May 2006 16:04

looks plausable Name: Harriet Hadfield Birth Date: abt 1832 Year of Registration: 1904 Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar Age at death: 72 District: Stockport County: Cheshire, Lancashire Volume: 8a Page: 9

Darksecretz

Darksecretz Report 7 May 2006 16:03

hmmmmn, how about this?? Name: Harriet Hadfield Year of Registration: 1838 Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun District: Stockport County: Cheshire, Lancashire Volume: 19 Page: 277 julie

Darksecretz

Darksecretz Report 7 May 2006 15:59

this looks to be frances's birth,, no sign of sarah anns though Name: Frances Hadfield Year of Registration: 1867 Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar District: Stockport County: Cheshire, Lancashire Volume: 8a Page: 70 Julie

JaneFrance

JaneFrance Report 7 May 2006 15:57

Thanks!! So either I plump for one of those two and hope for the best or try another avenue. I think I'll have to chance it and maybe cross check again with later census entries for her. You're being really helpful. Thanks so much

Darksecretz

Darksecretz Report 7 May 2006 15:53

jane please see updated birth entry i found 2, one nancy one ellen Julie

JaneFrance

JaneFrance Report 7 May 2006 15:50

Julie, that look right. I'm going to order it and see who is named as parents. Linda, where does John Ryan come from? On Nancy Ellen's marriage certificate her father is definitely named asJohn Hadfield. Thanks to both of you for helping out. I'll have to take some time out to think again and get back to you if thats alright. Thanks once again very much Jane

Darksecretz

Darksecretz Report 7 May 2006 15:49

if i were you i'd order cert but with harriet as ref check, then youd have something to go on, perhaps a search of reversed names may help ie harriet hadfield/ john ryan just ta thought Julie

Darksecretz

Darksecretz Report 7 May 2006 15:46

could this be her birth?? no middle name though Name: Nancy Hadfield Year of Registration: 1860 Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun District: Stockport County: Cheshire, Lancashire Volume: 8a Page: 8 Julie found this one as well, just to confuse the issue Name: Ellen Hadfield Year of Registration: 1859 Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep District: Stockport County: Cheshire, Lancashire Volume: 8a Page: 56 ho hum

Linda

Linda Report 7 May 2006 15:45

Had a thought Perhaps Harriets maiden name was Hadfield. Then perhaps John Ryan was the father of Ellen and Frances, but they never married, therefore making Michael and Mary the Grandparents. Linda

JaneFrance

JaneFrance Report 7 May 2006 15:42

This is really trying. I can't believe the census can be out by thirty or forty years. I'd just like to say too, that unfortunately I don't have Nancy's birth certificate. That would help a lot I know.

Darksecretz

Darksecretz Report 7 May 2006 15:42

this is 41 census View Record Mary Ryan abt 1796 Cheadle Cheshire View Record Michael Ryan abt 1791 Ireland Cheadle Cheshire View Record Michl Ryan Junr. abt 1833 Cheshire, England Cheadle Cheshire View Record Willm Ryan abt 1826 Cheshire, England Cheadle Cheshire Julie

Darksecretz

Darksecretz Report 7 May 2006 15:39

this is 61 cen View Record Ellen Hadfield abt 1860 Stockport, Cheshire, England Granddaughter Cheadle Bulkeley Cheshire View Record Sarah Ann Hadfield abt 1858 Bolton, Lancashire, England Granddaughter Cheadle Bulkeley Cheshire View Record Mary Ryan abt 1793 Bolton, Lancashire, England Wife Cheadle Bulkeley Cheshire View Record Michael Ryan abt 1787 Ireland Head Cheadle Bulkeley Cheshire now i know that ages can differ abit in cen, but this is a puzzle and a half, think we'd better go back to scratch an dtry and find Nancys birth, then we'll have something to get our teeth into Julie

Linda

Linda Report 7 May 2006 15:38

Found Michael and Mary in 1851 Match Quality View Record Name Estimated Birth Year Birthplace Relationship Civil Parish County/Island View Image View Record Edward Magone abt 1816 Brinkburn, Cheshire, England Lodger Cheadle Bulkeley Cheshire View Record Mary Ryan abt 1793 Balton, Lancashire, England Wife Cheadle Bulkeley Cheshire View Record Michael Ryan abt 1789 Ireland Head Cheadle Bulkeley Cheshire View Record Michael Ryan abt 1833 Cheadle, Cheshire, England Son Cheadle Bulkeley Cheshire Linda

JaneFrance

JaneFrance Report 7 May 2006 15:36

As for the 1871 Census giving her as born in 1863, I think this must have been wrong. See why I'm confused?

JaneFrance

JaneFrance Report 7 May 2006 15:35

1861 Census Carlisle street, Stockport, Parish Cheadle Buckley Michael Ryan, abt 1787, b. Ireland, Head Mary Ryan, abt 1793, Bolton, Lancashire, England, Wife Sarah Ann Hadfield, abt 1858 b. Bolton, Lancashire, England, Granddaughter Ellen Hadfield, abt 1860 b. Stockport, Cheshire, England, Granddaughter Was given this by a GenesReunited lookup. What's happening?

Linda

Linda Report 7 May 2006 15:32

I'm a little confused. If Nancy Ellen was born in 1863 how did you find her in 1861? Linda

Darksecretz

Darksecretz Report 7 May 2006 15:30

could you post the 1861 that you have with ellen and gparents please? julie

Darksecretz

Darksecretz Report 7 May 2006 15:29

me again, if this is grandparents doubtful if harriet is theirs, according to marys dob she was born 1834 View Record Mary Ryan abt 1834 Ireland Wife Manchester Lancashire View Record Michael Ryan abt 1815 Ireland Head Manchester Lancashire this is 71 cen julie