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Thanks for your reply Dorothy I'll crack this if it kills me lol

Hi Ann I've read somewhere that about a third of all BMDs between 1837 and 1875 were not registered. I have several marriages that I cannot find a record of. Also, my Mother's friend never knew exactly when she was born (C1902!!) as her parents could not afford the registration fee and it was only when they heard that inspectors were checking up in their area and fining miscreants that they went and registered her as a new-born and she was actually a toddler!! She only found this out when she had to get her birth cert for a passport when she was in her 70s and the birth year did not agree with the age she was certain she actually was.

little nudge for night people gotta go to work now back later Ann

Anybody else want to have a go at this one Am now trying to establish a link between the only Blaylock born Middleton same as Elizabeth who in 1851 census was a servant in Durham St Giles born approx 1825 died 1854 who could possibly be Williams mother as her parents were William Blaylock and Mary Bell therefore if Mary Bell and Elizabeth Bell were sisters this could be the missing link ?? Am I just trying to make a connection where there isnt one ?? Any ideas - back later Ann

Have days of searching years on 1837 and family relatives - makes your eyes go funny after a while especially at this time of night Any suggestions greatly appreciated Ann

Ann, FreeBMD isn't complete for the time around his birth. Could be his name was mistranscribed in some way and it might be easier to find him when FreeBMD has a bit more coverage. Rose

Sorry not got back earlier Here goes John Edward Blaylock - my grandfather - 1901 has father William Blaylock dob works out to 1854 Working back thru censii to 1861 William always born Laverick Hall (Hedworth Monkton Jarrow) Have been unable to find birth of William since beginning to look over 1 year ago have searched ancestry,family relatives,1837 online Williams 1st wife Janet Crookston - hence middle name of child Tinner another middle name looks like should be Tina as Janets mother was Agnes Tina No father listed for William on marriage cert Janet dies William marries Susan Crummey 14 years younger than him - father of William on cert states William (Hotel Keeper) have been advised on here that my William probably made that up as was embarrassed at maybe being illegimate 1861 William living with Elizabeth and George Cummins Laverick Hall as visitor & John Bell lodger 1871 William living with Elizabeth and John B Cummins as nephew George died 1868 Marriage cert for Elizabeth and George states Elizabeth father John Bell Deduced that John B Cummins is really John Bell poss brother as census states lodger 1851 Elizabeth married to Robert Robinson cannot find that marriage but record of elizabeth robson (robinson) states elizabeth father John Bell Also records found always come back to Laverick Hall Go round and round with this one but have to keep coming back What else can I tell you Ann

Registration was not compulsory until 1875.........the birth may simply not have been registered. Reg

Was Elizabeth's maiden name Blaylock? By the way nephews are all nephews not nephews in law. marriage right time frame. View Record Joseph Blaylock 1852 Oct-Nov-Dec Gateshead Co. Durham, Tyne And Wear View Record Felix Carrol 1852 Oct-Nov-Dec Gateshead Co. Durham, Tyne And Wear View Record Margaret Dick 1852 Oct-Nov-Dec Gateshead Co. Durham, Tyne And Wear View Record Isabella Thompson 1852 Oct-Nov-Dec Gateshead Co. Durham, Tyne And Wear

Hi. What is his fathers name? Would be on wedding certificate. Ffion

What do the middle names for his kids signify? Crookston and Tinner? Rose

Ok add some more details tomorrow but how do you know you are chasing the right man?

What about his marriage cert? Is a father listed? Rose

Will have to catch you tomorrow batteries gone in cordless George and Elizabeth not yet together in 1841 Elizabeth married to Robert Robinson - so complicated Thanks again Ann

George and Elizabeth in 1841?: Ann Cummins abt 1829 Durham, England Stockton upon Tees Durham View Record David Cummins abt 1821 Durham, England Stockton upon Tees Durham View Record Elizabeth Cummins abt 1796 Durham, England Stockton upon Tees Durham View Record Elizabeth Cummins abt 1840 Durham, England Stockton upon Tees Durham View Record George Cummins abt 1791 Stockton upon Tees Durham View Record Mary Cummins abt 1826 Durham, England Stockton upon Tees Durham

Looks like back to the drawing board then I'll have no hair left soon - thought I'd made a breakthru today Thanks for your help - William was my ggrandfather so I'm stuck at that one Time for bed tomorrows another day Ann

Ann, If you're talking about this one, it belongs to someone else: WILLIAM BLAYLOCK Birth: 29 MAR 1860 Christening: 27 MAY 1860 Tanfield, Durham, England Parents: Father: JOHN BLAYLOCK Family Mother: MARGARET Rose

So are you related to any of these? Frances Blaylock abt 1848 Carlisle, Cumberland, England Niece Stanhope Forest Quarter Durham View Record James Blaylock abt 1843 Wolsingham, Durham, England Son Bishopley Durham View Record Jane Blaylock abt 1825 Middleton in Teesdale, Durham, England Servant Durham St Giles Durham View Record John Blaylock abt 1838 Stanhope, Durham, England Son Bishopley Durham View Record Margaret Blaylock abt 1841 Wolsingham, Durham, England Daughter Bishopley Durham View Record Margaret Blaylock abt 1802 The Mett, Cumberland, England Servant Brandon Durham View Record Mary Blaylock abt 1817 Alston, Cumberland, England Head Bishopley Durham View Record Mary Blaylock abt 1791 Newcastle, Northumberland, England Head Gateshead Durham View Record Sarah A Blaylock abt 1836 Hetton, Durham, England Daughter Bishopley Durham

I've tried on here before for this one but will not give up William Blaylock - all censii state born 1854 Laverick Hill County Durham (Hedworth Monkton Jarrow) 1861 Living with Elizabeth and George Cummins as visitor 1871 Living with Elizabeth and John B Cummins as nephew therefore related to Elizabeth and not George as Elizabeth is now Head of Household Elizabeth marries George Elizabeth father John Bell Elizabeth born Middleton in Teesdale Only Blaylock in Tessdale is Jane - 1851 servant unmarrried in Durham st giles Jane born 1825 Middleton parents William Blaylock Mary Bell Are you following my line Now working on theory that Janes mum is Elizabeth sister ?? Only birthI can find anyway connected 1860 William in Durham ???????????

I don't think a birth would be registered 6 years after the event. It might have been registered initially and then re-registered 6 years later, but I think you would be able to tell this from the index as there should be some extra details or numbers in the index. Kath. x