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What an impressive thread. This is what GR's all about! Can I just say that people would often put on the census the place they were permanently living in at the time of birth even if the actual birth location was a temporary one. Therefore a family could be living in Shoreditch but the pregnant mother could go to stay with a female relative or friend in Camberwell for the period of her confinement. So the censuses would all say Shoreditch even though officially the birth was registered in Camberwell.

Hi Elaine, Keiley and Diane, a great big thanks to you all from myself Jean; and Cheetah. Now we can go from here and get the certificates. You are wonderful people for helping us. Thanks again. Will keep you updated on what we find. Hope you are all well. Regards Cheetah and Jean her mother x

nudged for Cheetah - hope you have seen this !

Well I think that´s it - time to get the certificates to double check all the information!!

1851 Charles Haylett abt 1847 Clerkenwell, Middlesex, England Son Shoreditch Middlesex Henry Haylett abt 1850 Shoreditch, Middlesex, England Son Shoreditch Middlesex Lucy Haylett abt 1838 Shoreditch, Middlesex, England Visitor Shoreditch Middlesex Sarah Haylett abt 1815 Streatham, Surrey, England Wife Shoreditch Middlesex Thomas Haylett abt 1819 Ipswich, Suffolk, England Head Shoreditch Middlesex Thomas journeyman carpenter

possible marriage of Charles Haylett (born 1847) Charles Everdell Haylett Year of Registration: 1868 Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar District: St Luke County: London, Middlesex Volume: 1b Page: 719 Charles Everdell Haylett 1868 Jan-Feb-Mar St Luke London, Middlesex Sarah Ann Snell 1868 Jan-Feb-Mar St Luke London, Middlesex - which would explain where the SNELL middle name came from!

I think you need a cup of coffee after all that hard work Elaine!

Well it looks as if we are on the right lines - but you do need to check this information against some certificates. To be 100% sure you need George and Clara´s marriage certificate George´s birth certificate Clara´s birthcertificate

Birth registration George Snell Haylett 1881 2nd quarter Shoredith vol 1c, p97

This is a possible forGeorge Haylett (note middle initial of S - and his marriage registration gives a middle name of Snell) Charles E Haylett abt 1847 Clerkenwell, Middlesex, England Head Shoreditch London Florence W Haylett abt 1879 Shoreditch Daughter Shoreditch London Frederick W Haylett abt 1874 Shoreditch Son Shoreditch London George S Haylett abt 1881 Shoreditch Son Shoreditch London Sarah Ann Haylett abt 1852 Shoreditch Wife Shoreditch London Thomas F Haylett abt 1818 Ipswich, Suffolk, England Father Shoreditch London Charles occupation library attendant George´s marriage certificate will give father´s name and occupation - so should confirm if this is the right one same family 1891 Charles E Haylett abt 1847 Clerkenwell, London, England Head Shoreditch London Edith Sarah Haylett abt 1876 Shoreditch, London, England Daughter Shoreditch London Florence W Haylett abt 1879 Shoreditch, London, England Daughter Shoreditch London Frederick Wm Haylett abt 1874 Shoreditch, London, England Son Shoreditch London George S Haylett abt 1881 Shoreditch, London, England Son Shoreditch London Henry Charles Haylett abt 1872 Islington, London, England Son Shoreditch London Jessie Rosina Haylett abt 1869 Shoreditch, London, England Daughter Shoreditch London Kate Isabel Haylett abt 1877 Shoreditch, London, England Daughter Shoreditch London Sarah Ann Haylett abt 1852 Shoreditch, London, England Wife Shoreditch London and 1881 Chas. Haylett abt 1847 Clerkenwell, Middlesex, England Head Shoreditch London Edith Haylett abt 1876 Shoreditch, Middlesex, England Daughter Shoreditch London Florence Haylett abt 1879 Shoreditch, Middlesex, England Daughter Shoreditch London Fredk. Haylett abt 1874 Shoreditch, Middlesex, England Son Shoreditch London Henry Haylett abt 1872 Shoreditch, Middlesex, England Son Shoreditch London Infant Haylett Shoreditch, Middlesex, England Son Shoreditch London Jessie Haylett abt 1869 Shoreditch, Middlesex, England Daughter Shoreditch London Kate Haylett abt 1877 Shoreditch, Middlesex, England Daughter Shoreditch London Sara Haylett abt 1852 Shoreditch, Middlesex, England Wife Shoreditch London Infant child listed probably George and 1871 Charles E Haylett abt 1847 Clerkenwell, Middlesex, England Head Islington St Peter London Jessie R Haylett abt 1869 Hoxton, Middlesex, England Daughter Islington St Peter London Sarah A Haylett abt 1850 Hoxton, Middlesex, England Wife Islington St Peter London

Well what we have given you doesn´t seem to fit in with your 'known facts' Clara Van Rijn/ Vandyke born 1880 in Camberwell -how sure are you of this? She married George Haylett - we have found her marriage registration - if you order the certificate it will show the names of both fathers and their occupations which could help with census searches. Goerge born about 1881 - with his father´s name from the marriage certificate you could probably trace him in the census Clara's father is an unknown Van Rijn born in the Holland Netherlands - from the census we have found it looks as if it could have been Walter b1843 in Bloomsbury!! If the birth registration we have found for Clara is the right one - and with a name like van Ryne -its highly likely, then this will confirm her parents names

For Francis FRANCIS VANRYNE Male -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Event(s): Birth: 26 SEP 1873 Christening: 30 NOV 1873 Saint John The Baptist, Shoreditch, London, England Death: Burial: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Parents: Father: WALTER VANRYNE Mother: CHARLOTTE

This one for Charlotte CHARLOTTE ELIZA VANRYNE Female -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Event(s): Birth: 25 APR 1870 Christening: 22 MAY 1870 Saint John The Baptist, Shoreditch, London, England Death: Burial: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Parents: Father: WALTER VANRYNE Mother: CHARLOTTE

i found this extracted birth/christening for the son walter on familysearch WALTER HENRY VANRYNE Male -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Event(s): Birth: 14 DEC 1871 Christening: 07 JAN 1872 Saint John The Baptist, Shoreditch, London, England Death: Burial: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Parents: Father: WALTER VANRYNE Family Mother: CHARLOTTE

apossible in 1851 Francis Van Ryan abt 1840 Bloomsbury, London, England Son Shoreditch Middlesex James Van Ryan abt 1811 Islinty Roth, London, England Head Shoreditch Middlesex Mary Van Ryan abt 1811 Lensham, Kent, England Wife Shoreditch Middlesex Mary Van Ryan abt 1846 Bloomsbury, London, England Daughter Shoreditch Middlesex Walter Van Ryan abt 1843 Bloomsbury, London, England Son Shoreditch Middlesex

1871 Charlotte Vanryne abt 1847 Shoreditch, Middlesex, England Wife Shoreditch London Charlotte C Vanryne abt 1870 Shoreditch, Middlesex, England Daughter Shoreditch London Fanny Vanryne abt 1867 Shoreditch, Middlesex, England Sister Shoreditch London Walter Vanryne abt 1843 Bloomsbury, Middlesex, England Head Shoreditch London and possible marriage Walter Vanryne Year of Registration: 1869 Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun District: Shoreditch County: London, Middlesex Volume: 1c Page: 200 Charlotte Ballard 1869 Apr-May-Jun Shoreditch London, Middlesex Walter Vanryne 1869 Apr-May-Jun Shoreditch London, Middlesex

1881 Walter VANRYNE Head M Male 38 London, Middlesex, England Boot Maker Charlotte VANRYNE Wife M Female 33 London, Middlesex, England Charlotte VANRYNE Daur Female 10 London, Middlesex, England Scholar Walter VANRYNE Son Male 9 London, Middlesex, England Scholar Francis VANRYNE Son Male 7 London, Middlesex, England Scholar Maud VANRYNE Daur Female 3 London, Middlesex, England Henry VANRYNE Son Male 1 London, Middlesex, England Fanny VANRYNE Sister U Female 14 London, Middlesex, England At De La Russ (Slat) ? Dwelling 49 Forston St Census Place London, Middlesex, England Diane you beat me!

The family in 1881 Charlotte Vanryne abt 1848 London, Middlesex, England Wife St Leonard Shoreditch London View Record Charlotte Vanryne abt 1871 London, Middlesex, England Daughter St Leonard Shoreditch London View Record Fanny Vanryne abt 1867 London, Middlesex, England Sister St Leonard Shoreditch London View Record Francis Vanryne abt 1874 London, Middlesex, England Son St Leonard Shoreditch London View Record Henry Vanryne abt 1880 London, Middlesex, England Son St Leonard Shoreditch London View Record Maud Vanryne abt 1878 London, Middlesex, England Daughter St Leonard Shoreditch London View Record Walter Vanryne abt 1843 London, Middlesex, England Head St Leonard Shoreditch London View Record Walter Vanryne abt 1872 London, Middlesex, England Son St Leonard Shoreditch London

same family in 1871 Charlotte Vanryne abt 1847 Shoreditch, Middlesex, England Wife Shoreditch London View Record Charlotte C Vanryne abt 1870 Shoreditch, Middlesex, England Daughter Shoreditch London View Record Fanny Vanryne abt 1867 Shoreditch, Middlesex, England Sister Shoreditch London View Record Walter Vanryne abt 1843 Bloomsbury, Middlesex, England Head Shoreditch London

the same family in 1891 Charlotte Vaunyne abt 1850 Shoreditch, London, England Head Shoreditch London Charlotte Vaunyne abt 1871 Shoreditch, London, England Daughter Shoreditch London Clara Vaunyne abt 1882 Shoreditch, London, England Daughter Shoreditch London Francis Vaunyne abt 1874 Shoreditch, London, England Son Shoreditch London Henry Vaunyne abt 1880 Shoreditch, London, England Son Shoreditch London Maud Vaunyne abt 1878 Shoreditch, London, England Daughter Shoreditch London Walter H Vaunyne abt 1872 Shoreditch, London, England Son Shoreditch London checked image = Vanryne Charlotte senior widow