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Thats fantastic, thank you very much. Will now try to make a connection to the other Spooner families that I have contacted....Thank you.

He was a Shoe maker............ Reg

Can you tell me what Benjamin b1833 profession was please?

And Benjamin's, which would explain why the children were living with grandfather and his wife in 1881 Name: Benjamin Spooner Birth Date: abt 1833 Year of Registration: 1876 Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec Age at death: 43 District: Bethnal Green County: Greater London, London, Middlesex Volume: 1c Page: 139 Reg

Jane's death.......maybe! Name: Jane Spooner Birth Date: abt 1834 Year of Registration: 1867 Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun Age at death: 33 District: Shoreditch County: London, Middlesex Volume: 1c Page: 125 Reg

Reg, thats fantastic, thank you. Will have re-subscribe to ancestry again!!!

No wonder I couldnt find Hyeling in any records!!! I have seen the name Somerset Spooner before when Ive been looking for a connection, am thrilled to have more info to work on...

The family in 1871.....in case you haven't got thie info Benj Spooner abt 1833 Maldon, Essex, England Head St Leonard Shoreditch London View Record Benjn Spooner abt 1860 Son St Leonard Shoreditch London View Record Charlotte Spooner abt 1858 Hackney, Middlesex, England Daughter St Leonard Shoreditch London View Record Eliza Spooner abt 1855 Hackney, Middlesex, England Daughter St Leonard Shoreditch London View Record Jane Spooner abt 1861 Daughter St Leonard Shoreditch London View Record John Spooner abt 1856 Hackney, Middlesex, England Son St Leonard Shoreditch London Benj snr is a Widower......... Reg

Hyeling, like Barlow, is probably a mistranscription. nell

Will do, thank you all so much. Very appreciated.

See the info about Benjamin's marriage............. Reg

Wow!! Im amazed, ive trawled through the different census and couldnt find anything about Benjamin b1833. I wonder who his wife was? I didnt know about Charlotte Elisabeth or Jane either, although I did know about John. How did you all find this information, I must be looking at the wrong sites. Can we make a positive connection between Benjamin b1833 and John b1809?

Benjamin's marriage to Jane.........the cert will confirm his father's details...... Benjamin Spooner 1854 Jan-Feb-Mar Hackney Greater London, London, Middlesex View Record Jane White 1854 Jan-Feb-Mar Hackney Greater London, London, Middlesex Volume: 1b Page: 345 Reg

1851 census *****Benjamin Spomer abt 1832 Steeple, Essex, England Nephew Bromley St Leonard Middlesex Hannah Spomer abt 1813 Southminster, Essex, England Wife Bromley St Leonard Middlesex Somerset Spomer abt 1813 Steeple, Essex, England Head Bromley St Leonard Middlesex Somerset Spomer abt 1837 Southminster, Essex, England Son Bromley St Leonard Middlesex

I don't think you'll find any children for John and Susan.........any offspring would be from his first marriage. Benjamin is clearly one...........any others I wonder? If the question is for me, Emma......it's 1861 census on Ancestry Reg

Benjamins (1860) father was Benjamin (c 1833)

Benjamin b1860 is my Gt gt Grandfather but I dont know of Charlotte etc. Cant find out who Benjamins Father was, all I know is that Benjamins Grandfather was this elusive John!! Oh, the John b1856 is his brother I think, where did you get that info?

These must be the grandsons + in 1861............. Benjamin Spooner abt 1833 Essex, England Head South Hackney Middlesex View Record Benjamin Spooner abt 1860 Hackney, Middlesex, England Son South Hackney Middlesex View Record Charlotte Spooner abt 1858 Hackney, Middlesex, England Daughter South Hackney Middlesex View Record Elisabeth Spooner abt 1855 Hackney, Middlesex, England Daughter South Hackney Middlesex View Record Jane Spooner abt 1835 Limehouse, Middlesex, England Wife South Hackney Middlesex View Record John Spooner abt 1856 Hackney, Middlesex, England Son South Hackney Middlesex Reg

My Gt Gt Grandfather is listed as living with him on one of the census, I think the 1881. He is down as Johns Grandson. I have worked on this for about 4 months and ive checked all the census. The trouble is that on another census he has put that he was b1806 in Hyeling, Essex....I cant even find where Hyeling was!!! Am wondering whether he assumed this identity?

Chap with wife right birthyear and name in 1861 but no children: Bethnal Green Middlesex John Spooner abt 1806 Hyeleing, Essex, Head Susan Spooner abt 1832 Barking, Essex, Wife this John is a carman