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where and when was first child born please which is the first census they appear on together? are you certain his first name was ben? found a suitable Enoch! found one married with two sons by 1861 Benjamin Coultard abt 1832 Crowle, Lincolnshire, England Head Crowle Lincolnshire Mary Coultard abt 1833 Market Deeping, Lincolnshire, England Wife Crowle Lincolnshire Robert Coultard abt 1861 Crowle, Lincolnshire, England Son Crowle Lincolnshire William Coultard abt 1858 Crowle, Lincolnshire, England Son Crowle Lincolnshire

I'm looking on Ancestry for marriage of Benjamin Coultard b1831 Crowle and Mary Unknown b1833 Market Deeping....its either not there or my glasses need cleaning. Could someone please have an look for me to see if it is there or not, its driving me mad.

I only have them on the 1881 census, 1st child I have is Robert 1861, then Frederick 1868, Sarah Jane 1873 andThomas 1876 all born in Crowle, Lincs

presume ( might be wrong) this is him in 1871 View Record Ann Elizabeth Coultard abt 1865 Crowle, Lincolnshire, England Daughter Crowle Lincolnshire View Record Benjamin Coultard abt 1832 Crowle, Lincolnshire, England Head Crowle Lincolnshire View Record Frederik Coultard abt 1869 Crowle, Lincolnshire, England Son Crowle Lincolnshire View Record Mary Coultard abt 1833 Market Deeping, Lincolnshire, England Wife Crowle Lincolnshire View Record Robert Coultard abt 1861 Crowle, Lincolnshire, England Son Crowle Lincolnshire View Record William Coultard abt 1858 Crowle, Lincolnshire, England Son Crowle Lincolnshire

not married in 1851 View Record Benjamin Coultard abt 1832 Crowle, Lincolnshire, England Son Crowle Lincolnshire View Record Elizabeth Coultard abt 1847 Crowle, Lincolnshire, England Daughter Crowle Lincolnshire View Record Hannah Coultard abt 1841 Crowle, Lincolnshire, England Daughter Crowle Lincolnshire View Record John Coultard abt 1802 Crowle, Lincolnshire, England Head Crowle Lincolnshire View Record John Coultard abt 1829 Crowle, Lincolnshire, England Son Crowle Lincolnshire View Record Phebe Coultard abt 1803 Garthorpe, Lincolnshire, England Wife Crowle Lincolnshire View Record Robert Coultard abt 1839 Crowle, Lincolnshire, England Son Crowle Lincolnshire

First name appears to be Benjamin from IGI BENJAMIN COULTARD Male Christening: 08 MAR 1832 Crowle, Lincoln, England Parents: Father: JOHN COULTARD Family Mother: PHEBE

Yes thats def' the right Benjamin, just no sign of a marriage

got his bap from the IGI - cant see his marriage though BENJAMIN COULTARD Male Event(s): Birth: Christening: 08 MAR 1832 Crowle, Lincoln, England Death: Burial: Parents: Father: JOHN COULTARD Family Mother: PHEBE

The family in 1861:- Record Benjamin Coultard abt 1832 Crowle, Lincolnshire, England Head Crowle Lincolnshire Mary Coultard abt 1833 Market Deeping, Lincolnshire, England Wife Crowle Lincolnshire Robert Coultard abt 1861 Crowle, Lincolnshire, England Son Crowle Lincolnshire William Coultard abt 1858 Crowle, Lincolnshire, England Son Crowle Lincolnshire Source information: RG9/3526 Registration district: Thorne Sub-registration district: Crowle ED, institution, or vessel: 2 Folio: 29 Page: 29 First son would appear to be William born c. 1858 (which probably means 1857). Kath. x UPDATE - Sorry Jess, just realised you've already found the 1861 census.

I wonder why there is no signof a marriage?!

A possible birth for Robert Robert Coltard Year of Registration: 1861 Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar District: Thorne County: Lincolnshire, West Riding Of Yorkshire Volume: 9c Page: _0 - but cant see one for William. Maybe we should be looking for a marriage 1859-1861 ?

Ive just looked again on Ancestry and familysearch 1855-1865 and nothing

Do you think they could have waited until later in life to get married. There is this marriage of FreeBMD:- Name: Benjamin Coultard Year of Registration: 1892 Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep District: Thorne County: Lincolnshire, West Riding Of Yorkshire Volume: 9c Page: 1053 There is a Mary Ann Sharpe on the same page. You would need to find one of the children's birth certificates to be sure of Mary's maiden name. Kath. x

You might think Kathleens suggestion is slightly absurd!! LOL!!! Don´t dismiss it - have just found one of mine - husband born 1828, wife born 1834, first child born1854 - Marriage 1890!!!!

yes they could've waited......................did people do that in those days though, have kids then get married

Lol I just thought that it was such a 'bad' thing years ago to have kids without being married

Most of my lot either had kids before they were married, or were certainly quite a few months pregnant at the time. I don't think things change much over the centuries, lol. Kath. x

LOL I better hang my head in shame at being an 'unmarried' Mum. Mind you, thank god I didn't marry the ******* LOL

dont be mislead - who is this chap - that might be his marriage 1891 census Name: Benjamin Coultard Age: 39 Estimated birth year: abt 1852 Relation: Head Gender: Male Where Born: Crowle, Lincolnshire, England Civil parish: Crowle Ecclesiastical parish: Crowle Town: Crowle County/Island: Lincolnshire Country: England condition as to marriage is a huge scribble< looking closely its W- for widow- and he is 59, so maybe your man re-married Source information: RG12/3870 Registration district: Thorne Sub registration district: Crowle ED, institution, or vessel: 3 Folio: 52 Page: 42 (click to see others on page) GSU Number: 6098980

possibly wife Mary death - doesnt help with the marriage i know, but Name: Mary Coultard Birth Date: abt 1832 Year of Registration: 1890 Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun Age at death: 58 District: Thorne County: Lincolnshire, West Riding Of Yorkshire Volume: 9c Page: 497