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Hi Folks Could some kind person tell me where 260 Romford Road West Ham appears on the 1891 census? I have spent hours checking different enumeration districts and I cannot find it. I have a 1890 birth certificate for Lurline Braun Cinqvalia Moynihan ( father blank mother Catherine Jane Russell Moynihan) which gives 260 Romford Road as her address. As Lurline died in 1892 and I cannot find Catherine I am a bit stuck. Any help would be much appreciated. John

Sorry to be thick!-Do you know which Westham? any clues-Can you give me any other names on cert that I might be able to find on 1881-Then get a better Idea of area? Sorry Just read it again-Off to find Mother!

Name: Catherine Moynihan Age: 3 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1878 Relation: Daughter Father's name: John F. Mother's name: Catherine Gender: Female Where Born: Stroud, Kent, England Civil parish: West Ham County/Island: Essex Country: England Street address: 19 Cruckshank Rd Education: Employment status: Subscribe now to see this information. Occupation: None Registration district: West Ham Sub registration district: West Ham ED, institution, or vessel: 41 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Catherine Moynihan 33 Catherine Moynihan 3 Elizabeth Moynihan 6 Ellen Moynihan 5 Eugnie Moynihan 4 Ignatius Moynihan 8 John F. Moynihan 31 John F. Moynihan 9 Margaret Moynihan 66 Mary Moynihan 2 View Original Record Get all the details available on the original record image. Subscribe Now View blank form Save This Record Attach this record to a person in your tree as a source record, or save for later evaluation. Save Source Citation: Class: RG11; Piece: 1721; Folio: 135; Page Bit young-But could be something in it will check it out in a minute!

Have to go now-Have you the death cert as well?

Hi Dumpling Thank you for taking the time to help. In answer to your questions.No I do not have the death certificate, that was going to be my next step. Yes other people have searched Ancestry 1891 census for me but without a street index they have not been able to find 260 Romford Road. Kind regards John

Ada Smith Age: 9 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1872 Relation: Granddaughter Gender: Female Where Born: West Ham, Essex, England Civil parish: West Ham County/Island: Essex Country: England Street address: No 6 Ebor Cottages Romford Road Education: Employment status: Subscribe now to see this information. Occupation: Scholar Registration district: West Ham Sub registration district: West Ham ED, institution, or vessel: 38 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Lily M. Ryder 3 Rebecca Ryder 34 Ada Smith 9 Jane Smith 64 View Original Record Get all the details available on the original record image. Subscribe Now View blank form Save This Record Attach this record to a person in your tree as a source record, or save for later evaluation. Save Source Citation: Class: RG11; Piece: 1721; Folio: 20; Page: 36; Line: ; GSU roll: 1341411.

I know its not them-b ut at least its someone in that road-Gives as westham,Essex thats all. Perhaps if we can find someone with an unusual name in 1881 there-we can find them on 1891 and then work along the strret on 1891 images and find Catherine? Long shot I know butmightwork!

If you google for (Exeter map 1904)-you'll come up with a blue page-and Alan godfrey maps-He does repro maps of all over the place, an New old ones etc for only about £2.20. -I got an Exeter 1904 one of him and its been invaluable-Maybe they'll have one to help you?

Name: George Jones Age: 65 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1816 Relation: Head Gender: Male Where Born: Hackney, Middlesex, England Civil parish: West Ham County/Island: Essex Country: England Street address: 184 Romford Rd Condition as to marriage: Widow Education: Employment status: Subscribe now to see this information. Occupation: Wine Merchant Registration district: West Ham Sub registration district: West Ham ED, institution, or vessel: 40 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Eliza T. Befsey 63 Alice A. Gwnn 20 Florence A. Jones 29 George Jones 65 Georgina Jones 31 Walter D. Jones 24 Louisa S. Roberts 40 Again I know its not your family-But maybe they can be found on 1891 to help establish yours!-Getting nearer!

Name: Catherine Britton Age: 50 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1831 Relation: Sister Gender: Female Where Born: East Ham, Essex, England Civil parish: East Ham County/Island: Essex Country: England Street address: Romford Road Ramsden Cottage Education: Employment status: Subscribe now to see this information. Occupation: No Occupation Registration district: West Ham Sub registration district: West Ham ED, institution, or vessel: 52 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age David Barry 55 John Barry 64 Catherine Britton 50 Hannah Dacey 68 Harry Dacey 56 View Original Record Get all the details available on the original record image. Subscribe Now Maybe someone could find Ramsden Cottage-Or might recognise the name?

Catherine Stewart Age: 35 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1846 Relation: Servant Gender: Female Where Born: Stepney, Middlesex, England Civil parish: West Ham County/Island: Essex Country: England Street address: 221 Romford Rd Education: Employment status: Subscribe now to see this information. Occupation: General Serv Registration district: West Ham Sub registration district: West Ham ED, institution, or vessel: 39 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Ellen Lockett 35 James Lockett 30 Martha Lockett 45 Catherine Stewart 35 View Original Record Get all the details available on the original record image. Subscribe Now View blank form Save This Record .Hope someone can find some of these for you in 1891-It might take you closer-or with several names/street names maybe you can work out where it was?

Hi again-Have you tried looking for a marriage for her after the death of her daughter? If she was the on eon 1881 she was only young so could be something after 1910 when easy images run out (I checked them-but nothing obvious)-or a death. This is a tough one!

Thanks Dumpling. I have got to nip out now but I will follow up your ideas later tonight. John

Good luck!!-Have tried multimap-but got nowhere? Maybe she was abroad before the baby was born. Odd names! Maybe her dad was in Indian army or something?

Little Ilford, East Ham, xxx, West Ham and Stratford are all separate civil parishes which include parts of Romford Road. Please does anybody out there know now I can find xxx which must be the bit with 260 Romford road on it?.

John, I think that part of Romford Road is in Forest Gate. Romford Rd is a very very long road. Have a look at http://www.nethouseprices.com/ I think the post code now is approx E7 9HZ Good Luck Amanda

1891 Name: Frank Edwards Age: 28 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1863 Relation: Head Spouses's Name: Lizzie I Gender: Male Where Born: Mile End, London, England Civil parish: West Ham Ecclesiastical parish: St Emmanuel Town: Forest Gate County/Island: Essex Country: England Registration district: West Ham Sub registration district: West Ham ED, institution, or vessel: 73 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Frank Edwards 28 Lizzie I Edwards 29 Anna M Nicholls 69 mother-in-law Emma Willy 18 servant Source Citation: Class: RG12; Piece: 1333; Folio 91; Page 4; GSU roll: 6096443 There is also a Thomas and Annie Bray Address is 260 Romford Road, West Ham, Forest Gate. ED73 has 52 images Maureen

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Thank you to all the kind people who spent time looking for census entry and found it. Unfortunately Catherine and Lurline are not on that census record . Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr. I will now order the death cert.

John, How old is 'Your' Catherine? MOYNIHAM, John F Head Widower M 48 Merchants Clerk Bermondsey London VIEW VIEW MOYNIHAM, Jonatius Son Single M 18 Merchants Clerk Bermondsey London VIEW VIEW MOYNIHAM, Elizabeth Daughter Single F 16 Scholar Bermondsey London VIEW VIEW MOYNIHAM, Ellen M Daughter F 15 Scholar Bow London VIEW VIEW MOYNIHAM, Katherine Daughter F 13 Scholar Stroud Kent VIEW VIEW MOYNIHAM, Mary C Daughter F 12 Scholar Rotherhithe London VIEW VIEW MOYNIHAM, Clare G Daughter F 8 Scholar Stratford Essex VIEW VIEW MOYNIHAM, Laurence P Son M 2 Forest Gate Essex VIEW VIEW -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- RG number: RG12 Piece: 1337 Folio: 83 Page: 21 Registration District: West Ham Sub District: West Ham EnumerationDistrict: 92 Ecclesiastical Parish: St Peter Civil Parish: West Ham Municipal Borough: West Ham Address: 129, Upton Lane, West Ham this is from the 1891 census Amanda