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Reg, Have you completely taken leave of your senses!!!! Still chasing after my NUTBEAMS - a day on!!! Seriously though, I really do appreciate your perseverance - your latest 'rally' has set my head spinning. Guessing, I'd say that my Benjamin senior had more brothers than I thought - Hill Top is significant as a residence, making Henry (b1809) a dead ringer for a brother to Benjamin. Meanwhile the William you found (b1794), well what a find ... he may well be brother to Benjamin's father or indeed to Benjamin himself. I don't quite know how to thank you enough for doing all this 'rooting out' for me - you are very kind, it's much appreciated. Kind regards Annie

Finally...........probably! Name: Charles Nutburn Age: 32 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1819 Relation: Head Spouses's Name: Elizabeth Gender: Male Where born: Beaulieu, Hampshire, England Civil parish: Southampton St Mary Town: Southampton County/Island: Hampshire Country: England Registration district: Southampton Sub-registration district: Southampton ED, institution, or vessel: 1s Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 85 Household Members: Name Age Charles Nutburn 32 Elizabeth Nutburn 30 Ellen Nutburn 2 James Nutburn 6 Thomas Nutburn 3 Mo Reg

And this one.........matches 1841 info Name: Mary Nuthburn Age: 78 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1773 Relation: Head Gender: Female Where born: Beaulieu, Hampshire, England Civil parish: Beaulieu County/Island: Hampshire Country: England Registration district: New Forest Sub-registration district: Lyndhurst ED, institution, or vessel: 1c Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 72 Household Members: Name Age Mary Nuthburn 78 Reg

Also these......... Name: Frances Nutburn Age: 14 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1837 Relation: Daughter Father's name: Henry Mother's name: Catherine Gender: Female Where born: Beaulieu, Hampshire, England Civil parish: Hilltop County/Island: Hampshire Country: England Registration district: New Forest Sub-registration district: Lyndhurst ED, institution, or vessel: 1b Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 35 Household Members: Name Age Henry Wr Lee 13 Catherine Nutburn 40 Charles Nutburn 12 Frances Nutburn 14 George Nutburn 9 Henry Nutburn 42 Jame Nutburn 4 Thomas Nutburn 1 Mo William Nutburn 7 I'm picking out only the ones b. Beaulieu The image for these is Nutburn.........but that may not be significant....... Reg

Another William on 1851........ Name: William Nutbeen Age: 24 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1827 Relation: Visitor Gender: Male Where born: Bealine, Hampshire, England Civil parish: Southampton St Michael Town: Southampton County/Island: Hampshire Country: England Registration district: Southampton Sub-registration district: Southampton ED, institution, or vessel: 6b Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 37 Birthplace is Beaulieu.... Occ: Labourer Reg

Annie You asked about other Nutbeams on 1851.......... Here goes....... Name: William Nutbeam Age: 57 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1794 Relation: Head Spouses's Name: Hannah Gender: Male Where born: Beaulieu, Hampshire, England Civil parish: Eling Ecclesiastical parish: Eling St Mary County/Island: Hampshire Country: England Registration district: New Forest Sub-registration district: Lyndhurst ED, institution, or vessel: 1d Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 142 Household Members: Name Age Ann Nutbeam 7 Elizabeth Nutbeam 9 Mo Frank Nutbeam 5 Hannah Nutbeam 47 Harriett Nutbeam 13 Sarah Nutbeam 20 Stephen Nutbeam 11 Walter Nutbeam 17 William Nutbeam 57 William Nutbeam 19 All born Beaulieu William snr is gardener, occ. 8 acres William jnr + Walter are garden labs. Reg

Maureen, Many thanks - sorry I thought I'd acknowledged your latest message, but had forgotten to push the button! Thanks also for that marriage contribution, Reg - OK, it doesn't prove anything, but it's all grist to the mill as they say. Shall we 'park' the enquiry here for now? I've taken up so much of everyone's time and I'm sure there are many other folk needing support on the board today. I'd like to send a big group hug to you all for being so patient and kind. You'll probably see me posting NUTBEAM again, but hopefully with a very focused question. Have a good afternoon, Regs Annie

Annie, I did actually check the 1841 image and thought the surname could well be Nutbeam. Maureen

Maureen, Taking an educated guess, I'd say that was my Benjamin. However, I've found something on FamilySearch which suggests his father should have been John ... not Henry. Is the image clear enough to check? Regs Annie PS: No, ignore that remark about John - he was the father of a probable earlier Benjamin in 1760.

Wonder if this is Benjamin in 1841 Name: Benjaman Nuthern Age: 20 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1821 Household: View other family members Gender: Male Where born: Hampshire, England Civil parish: Beaulieu Hundred: Southampton Division Beaulieu Liberty County/Island: Hampshire Country: England Source information: HO107/402/1 Registration district: New Forest Sub-registration district: Fawley ED, institution, or vessel: 11 Folio: 5 Page: 2 (click to see others on page) Line number: 4 GSU Number: 288802 Source Citation: Class: HO107; Civil Parish: Beaulieu; County: Hampshire; Enumeration District: 11; Page: 2; Line: 4; GSU roll: 288802 Eliza Nuthern abt 1816 Hampshire, England Henry Nuthern abt 1775 Mary Nuthern abt 1776 Maureen

Only two names on freebmd with the refs 8/327 Marriages Jun 1844 JONES George New Forest 8 327 WHITE Eliza New Forest 8 327 So, still not much further forward.............. Reg

Thanks Jeanette, Guess with certs now it's a case of 'order early for Christmas' what with WDYTYA back on TV!! Regs Annie

just looked on image for Benjamin marriage its 327 and its quite clear Jeanette

Thanks Reg, Having looked on FamilySearch, I wonder if there were any other NUTBEAMs in the area? Could I lean upon you further to look at 1851 to see if there were more? It's a relatively small, tho' oft mistyped, surname! Regs Annie

Possible marriage..........unfortunately, page number is incomplete, so no spouse's name.......... Name: Benjamin Nutbeem Year of Registration: 1844 Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun District: New Forest County: Hampshire, Wiltshire Volume: 8 Page: 32 * Reg

Ladies - and Reg! Thank you, thank you, thank you .... ... this is wonderful stuff and I now need to write it up and have a proper look at the shape of the family. I had no idea that NUTBEAM could be so mistranscribed - clearly you all think well outside of the box I sometimes feel I'm in!! I am most grateful for your help. Regs Annie PS: Reg, yes, I spotted that there were potentially two Marks as well - it could be that the first edition expired as a babe-in-arms ... bit unimaginative to use the name again, but it has happened elsewhere in my family.

Did they have two named Mark? 1851...........is this the family? Name: Benjamin Nutburn Age: 31 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1820 Relation: Head Spouses's Name: Elizabeth Gender: Male Where born: Beaulieu, Hampshire, England Civil parish: Hilltop County/Island: Hampshire Country: England Registration district: New Forest Sub-registration district: Lyndhurst ED, institution, or vessel: 1b Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 14 Household Members: Name Age Benjamin Nutburn 31 Elizabeth Nutburn 25 Frank Nutburn 4 George Nutburn 6 Jane Nutburn 2 Mark Nutburn 2 Mo Reg

1861. Name: Benjamin Nutbrom Age: 42 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1819 Relation: Head Spouses's Name: Elizabeth Gender: Male Where born: Beaulieu, Hampshire, England Civil parish: Fawley County/Island: Hampshire Country: England Street address: Occupation: Condition as to marriage: View image Registration district: New Forest Sub-registration district: Fawley ED, institution, or vessel: 11 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 60 Household Members: Name Age Benjamin Nutbrom 42 Benjamin Nutbrom 6 Mo Eliza Nutbrom 5 Elizabeth Nutbrom 38 Frank Nutbrom 3 <............Mark George Nutbrom 16 Jane Nutbrom 12 Noah Nutbrom 7 Occ Benjamin Sheppard

1851 possible for parents Name: Benjamin Nutburn Age: 31 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1820 Relation: Head Spouses's Name: Elizabeth Gender: Male Where born: Beaulieu, Hampshire, England Civil parish: Hilltop County/Island: Hampshire Country: England Registration district: New Forest Sub-registration district: Lyndhurst ED, institution, or vessel: 1b Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 14 Household Members: Name Age Benjamin Nutburn 31 Elizabeth Nutburn 25 Frank Nutburn 4 George Nutburn 6 Jane Nutburn 2 Mark Nutburn 2 Mo Source Citation: Class: HO107; Piece: 1668; Folio: 141; Page: 8; GSU roll: 193575 Maureen

Ladies! You are wonderful people!! Your guess, Maureen, looks good to me - thank you. And, Cheryl, you have performed wonders - I am pretty darn sure that'll be my man. Delighted that there are loads of siblings. Many thanks. Hate to ask, but is he lurking in 1871 too? Regs Annie