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Charles born 1840, Dover, Kent. Ann Milton born 1846, Folkestone, Kent. Elizabeth Rose born 1869, Elham, Kent and maybe Harriet Lavinia born 1871. They should be living in Elham, Folkestone, Kent. Charles may be a mariner. Thanks

Could this be him? Name: Charles Gilman Age: 30 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1841 Relation: Head Spouses's Name: Ann Gender: Male Where born: Dover, Kent, England Civil Parish: St Mary Ecclesiastical parish: St Peter Town: Folkestone County/Island: Kent Country: England Registration district: Elham Sub-registration district: Folkestone ED, institution, or vessel: 2 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 190 Household Members: Name Age Ann Gilman 25 Charles Gilman 30 Elizabeth Gilman 1 Class: RG10; Piece: 1014; Folio: 44; Page: 35 No Harriet though. Charles is a mariner. Keith

Thank you Keith would it be possible to try and find Charles in 1861. Thanks again Hannah

1861 Registration district: Dover Sub-registration district: St Mary ED, institution, or vessel: 8 Household schedule number: 63 Household Members: Ann Gillman 60 MOTHER-IN-LAW bn penzance cornwall CHARLES GILLMAN 19 BRO-IN-LAW MARINER bn dover Henry Gillman 63 FATHER-IN-LAW MARINER bn devon Charles E Munday 6 SON bn folkstone Henry John Munday 10 SON bn folkstone Mary Ann Munday 32 WIFE bn dover Wm H Munday 13 SON bn dover address S?? PLACE REGARDS DEBS

Thank you debbie, would Mary Ann be Charles' sister then? Hannah

Hannah if you would like to PM me your e-mail address I will send you a copy of the census page. It seems that Charles could well be the Brother in Law of Mary Ann. Keith

Just looked up marriage for Mary Ann Gillman and found that she married a William Monday. So she is daughter/sister! Thanks for your help, would it be possible to find them in 1851 also? Hannah

This MIGHT be him on the 51, I cannot find any trace of his parents on the census. UPDATE on second viewing, dont think this is him, parents are in workhouse with this one, parents William and Ann. Name: Charles Gillman Age: 10 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1841 Relation: Pauper Scholar Gender: Male Where born: Dover, Kent, England Civil parish: Buckland Town: Dover County/Island: Kent Country: England Registration district: Dover Sub-registration district: St James ED, institution, or vessel: Dover Union Workhouse Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 1 Household Members: Name Age Jane Gates 39 Charles Gillman 10 Ellen Gillman 7 Catharine Hanson 7 Elisa Hanson 39 Eliza Hanson 13 James Hogben 62 As you can see if it is him, he is in the workhouse. Class: HO107; Piece: 1632; Folio: 805; Page: 11 Keith

Thanks Keith, Is Mary Ann on there? She would be Munday or Monday though as she married in 1848. Hannah

This is probably them Name: Mary A Monday Age: 21 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1830 Relation: Visitor Gender: Female Where born: Dover, Kent, England Civil parish: Folkestone County/Island: Kent Country: England Registration district: Elham Sub-registration district: Folkestone ED, institution, or vessel: 2h Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 54 Household Members: Name Age Eliza Bates 8 Mo Mary A Bates 18 William Bates 19 David Marsh 2 Mo Esther Marsh 40 Esther Marsh 2 Isaac Marsh 38 John Marsh 4 Sarah Marsh 6 William Marsh 8 Mary A Monday 21 William Monday 22 Class: HO107; Piece: 1633; Folio: 211; Page: 13 Keith

Thank you Keith. I have just looked at the IGI records and found another 7 siblings to Charles, Mary Ann and Ellen and also their parents marriage! Could you try and find them in 1851? William 1837 Edward 1835 Henry 1832 Margaret 1830 James 1825 Elizabeth and Ann will probably be married. Hannah

Sorry Hannah, lost now, who are they the children of? Will be a while before I reply going to watch WDYTYA lol. Keith

They are Henry Gillman and Ann Bromley Bax children which include Charles, who I originally asked for a census lookup. Does that makes sense? Sorry, Hannah

Think this could be them in Dover, names not quite right though. Name Estimated Birth Year BirthPlace Civil Parish County/Island Ann Gillman abt 1811 St Mary Kent Edmund Gillman abt 1836 Kent, England St Mary Kent Henry Gillman abt 1801 Kent, England St Mary Kent Henry Gillman abt 1835 Kent, England St Mary Kent Mary Gillman abt 1829 Kent, England St Mary Kent Mary Gillman abt 1831 Kent, England St Mary Kent <-- Could be age 65 or 60, mistranscription, Possible Henrys mother? William Gillman abt 1838 Kent, England St Mary Kent Maria Tremain abt 1826 Kent, England St Mary Kent Class: HO107; Civil Parish: St Mary; County: Kent Henry is a mariner

Thank you, that does seem to be them. Hannah

Thanks Keith, Henry's mother Mary does fit as I have found his christening with parents John and Mary. Thanks very much for your help. Hope you enjoyed Who do you think you are? I thought it was really good! Hannah

As it happens I saw who it was and immediately looked away, funny he just did not interest me lol. Glad to be of help. Keith PS I was born in NI but to forces parents.

I thoght that at first but I really enjoyed it in the end. Please can I be cheeky and ask for 1 more lookup for 1841 census for the Gillman's? Im hoping the information from the 1851 census will help but if not let me know and I will fill you in. Hannah

Hannah Sorry the HO107 one above is the 1841.

Sorry Keith, Have you shown me the 1851 census as well then? Bit confused now! Hannah