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no this is why it is driving me mad lol all i know is walter edward was a potman in 1893 and 1894 going by the wedding and birth certs and the address for the wedding cert 1893 was 5 halpin place and the address for there sons birth in 1894 was 12 naylor rd peckham

OK, so no more clues there then??!!

sorry lesley my grandfather walter leslie left my nan in 1946 so i never met him as i was born in 1968 lol

ok and thank you as well jennifer for all you help steve

It's a bit like my Irish ones I'm afraid. They go back so far maybe 1860 1850 and then its all 'Ireland' born in the census, and its a bit of a wild goose chase, with such common names as McNeil, or Kavanagh, and not even a county. There are a few more Walter with father Thomas in the census but really I can't see any way of connecting them. Regards Jennifer

Stephen, do you know whether the family in 1901 is a possibility - did your grandfather ever mention an 'Aunt Rose'?

ok thankyou tracy for you help

oh no thats made it a night mare lol newcastle and dunstable in the mix now lol

No probs Stephen just sometimes easier to look when you know what has been found helps cut down the work load. Good luck I've had a look but not found anything different to what is here. Tracy

here's another 1871 England Census about Walter Jones Name: Walter Jones Age: 1 Estimated birth year: abt 1870 Relation: Son Father's name: Thomas Mother's name: Jone Gender: Male Where born: Clun, Shropshire, England Civil parish: Whitcott Ecclesiastical parish: Newcastle County/Island: Shropshire Country: England Street address: Occupation: Condition as to marriage: Disability: View image Registration district: Clun Sub-registration district: Clun ED, institution, or vessel: 2 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 109 Household Members: Name Age Caroline Jones 2 months Jane Jones 5 Jone Jones 33 Mary Jones 9 Thomas Jones 40 Thomas Jones 7 Walter Jones 1

tracy thats the prob nothing has been found that tells me who walter edwards mother was all i know is his father was thomas jones (deceased) i dont know if walter edward was born in london or gloucestershire thats my prob this is why i am asking for help

There is this Walter with father Thomas, who was 57(sorry 56) in 1871, and could well have been deceased by 1893. 1871 England Census about Walter Jones Name: Walter Jones Age: 1 Estimated birth year: abt 1870 Relation: Son Father's name: Thomas Mother's name: Sarah Gender: Male Where born: Dunstable, Bedfordshire, England Civil parish: Dunstable Town: Dunstable County/Island: Bedfordshire Country: England Street address: Occupation: Condition as to marriage: Disability: View image Registration district: Luton Sub-registration district: Dunstable ED, institution, or vessel: 9 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 130 Household Members: Name Age Alfred Jones 9 Arthur Jones 14 Elizabeth Jones 11 Emily Jones 12 Frederick Jones 16 Minnie Jones 6 Omelia Jones 4 Sarah Jones 37 Sarah J Jones 3 Thomas Jones 56 Walter Jones 1

Same family in 1871 Thomas Hanks abt 1827 Horsley, Gloucestershire, England Head Horsley Gloucestershire Ann Hanks abt 1807 Horsley, Gloucestershire, England Wife Horsley Gloucestershire John Hanks abt 1864 Horsley, Gloucestershire, England Lodger Horsley Gloucestershire Jane Hanks abt 1834 Horsley, Gloucestershire, England Lodger Wife (Lodger's Wife) Horsley Gloucestershire Thomas Hanks abt 1839 Horsley, Gloucestershire, England Lodger Horsley Gloucestershire Jane Jones abt 1846 Horsley, Gloucestershire, England Lodger Horsley Gloucestershire Thomas Jones abt 1847 Portsmouth, Hampshire, England Lodger Horsley Gloucestershire Ann Jones abt 1871 Horsley, Gloucestershire, England Lodger Horsley Gloucestershire David W Jones abt 1870 Horsley, Gloucestershire, England Lodger Horsley Gloucestershire William E Jones abt 1868 Horsley, Gloucestershire, England

Janes Hanks married Thomas Jones. Surname First name(s) District Vol Page -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Marriages Sep 1866 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- HANKS Jane Stroud 6a 529 JONES Thomas Stroud 6a 529

Thomas Hanks is Jane Jones' father - Jane being the possible mother of Walter Jones

no cant be them walter edwards father is thomas jones not hanks

Stephen, I think you should let the ones who are helping know what has already been found on the tips thread Tracy

If the 1891 family is the right one, may be them in 1881 Thomas Hanks abt 1806 Horsley, Gloucestershire, England Head Horsley Gloucestershire Anne Jones abt 1871 Horsley, Gloucestershire, England Daughter Horsley Gloucestershire Jane Jones abt 1845 Horsley, Gloucestershire, England Daughter (Head) (Daughter) Horsley Gloucestershire Mary Jones abt 1875 Horsley, Gloucestershire, England Daughter Horsley Gloucestershire Walter Jones abt 1869 Horsley, Gloucestershire, England Son Horsley Gloucestershire William Jones abt 1868 Horsley, Gloucestershire, England Son Horsley Gloucestershire

May be a possibility for 1891.... Jane Jones abt 1847 Horsley, Gloucestershire, England Head Horsley Gloucestershire Mary Jones abt 1875 Horsley, Gloucestershire, England Daughter Horsley Gloucestershire Walter Jones abt 1870 Horsley, Gloucestershire, England Son Horsley Gloucestershire Thomas Hanks abt 1806 Horsley, Gloucestershire, England Father Horsley Gloucestershire Horsley appears to be a sub-district of Stroud....

yes that could be them the names seem to match