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Hi Keith It does seem likely that he died - I cannot find him on any other census . Alice

I wonder if this was Henrys death? Name: Henry Adams Year of Registration: 1858 Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec District: Plomesgate County: Suffolk Volume: 4a Page: 397

Thank you for all that! It is probably my Jamima as her parents did go to live in London - however most of the family seem to be more specific with census returns - and give Little Glenham as their birthplace - I guess the only way to be certain is to get har marriage certificate. I guess , like me no one found out anything about little Henry? Lots of help with this thank you.all.

Same family 1891 Name: Jemina Friend Age: 57 Estimated birth year: abt 1834 Relation: Wife Spouse's name: John Gender: Female Where born: Suffolk, England Civil parish: Camberwell Ecclesiastical parish: St Mary Town: Peckham County/Island: London Country: England Street address: Occupation: Condition as to marriage: Education: Employment status: View image Registration district: Camberwell Sub-registration district: Peckham ED, institution, or vessel: 21 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Agnes Eugenie Friend 10 b Islington HR Leopold Friend 14 Islington Jemina Friend 57 John Friend 56 Percy Friend 5 Stepson b Peckham Thos Char Friend 20 b Islington James Strank 25 lodger Source Citation: Class: RG12; Piece: 477; Folio 46; Page 30; GSU roll: 6095587 1901, no Jemima, John Widower Name: John Friend Age: 67 Estimated birth year: abt 1834 Relation: Head Gender: Male Where born: Minster, Kent, England Civil parish: Camberwell Ecclesiastical parish: St Phillip Camberwell County/Island: London Country: England Street address: Occupation: Condition as to marriage: Education: Employment status: View image Registration district: Camberwell Sub-registration district: St George ED, institution, or vessel: 36 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 114 Household Members: Name Age Agnes E Friend 20 Daughter John Friend 67 Percy Friend 15 Nephew Source Citation: Class: RG13; Piece: 520; Folio: 155; Page: 16.

POSSIBLE death for Jemima Name: Jemima Friend Estimated birth year: abt 1833 Year of Registration: 1895 Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec Age at Death: 62 District: Camberwell (1837-1919) County: London, Surrey Volume: 1d Page: 506

Lets post some details for Jemima 1851 Name: Jemima Adams Age: 17 Estimated birth year: abt 1834 Relation: Servant Gender: Female Where born: Little Glemham, Suffolk, England Civil parish: Framlingham County/Island: Suffolk Country: England Street address: Market HIl Occupation: Servant Condition as to marriage: Unmarried Disability: View image Registration district: Plomesgate Sub-registration district: Earl ED, institution, or vessel: 1a Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 106 Household Members: Name Age Jemima Adams 17 Maria Clarke 20 Jane Hayward 19 Lucretia Mannell 22 Matilda Oxborrow 29 Julia Stanton 18 Jeanie Stuart 25 Source Citation: Class: HO107; Piece: 1802; Folio: 125; Page: 28; GSU roll: 207452 1861 Name: Jemima Adams Age: 27 Estimated birth year: abt 1834 Relation: Servant Gender: Female Where born: Little Glenham, Suffolk, England Civil parish: Westminster St Margaret Ecclesiastical parish: All Saints County/Island: Middlesex Country: England Street address: Occupation: Cook Condition as to marriage: Unmarried Registration district: Westminster Sub-registration district: St Margaret ED, institution, or vessel: 21 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 136 Household Members: Name Age Jemima Adams 27 Jane Aubrey 39 Vincent Cotton 59 Francis Duffin 51 Marine Pepper 33 Source Citation: Class: RG9; Piece: 55; Folio: 105; Page: 39; GSU roll: 542565 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Possible marriage, only three names on transcription, John Friend appears to marry a Jemima, but was it yours? Jemima Adams 1862 Jan-Feb-Mar Chelsea (1841-1981) Greater London, London, Middlesex 1a 273 John Friend 1862 Jan-Feb-Mar Chelsea (1841-1981) Greater London, London, Middlesex 1a 273 BIG IF that is the correct marriage, here they are in 1871 Name: James W Friend Age: 14 Estimated birth year: abt 1857 Relation: Stepson Mother's name: Jemima Gender: Male Where born: Lambeth Civil parish: Islington St Andrew Ecclesiastical parish: St Andrew County/Island: London Country: England Street address: Occupation: Condition as to marriage: Disability: View image Registration district: Islington Sub-registration district: Islington West ED, institution, or vessel: 43 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 97 Household Members: Name Age Edward K Friend 7 b Islington Eleanor M Friend 4 b Islington George R Friend 9 months b Islington James W Friend 14 STEPSON b Lambeth Jemima Friend 37 b Suffolk John Friend 37 b Minster, Kent John W Friend 8 b St Giles, Middlesex Sarah I Friend 5 b Islington Thomas C Friend 2 b Islington Louisa C Walters 13 Boarder b Lambeth Source Citation: Class: RG10; Piece: 265; Folio: 55; Page: 14; GSU roll: 824916 Same family in 1881? Name: Jemima Friend Age: 47 Estimated birth year: abt 1834 Relation: Wife Spouse's name: John Gender: Female Where born: Suffolk, England Civil parish: St Martin IN The Fields County/Island: London Country: England Street address: 33 Russell Street Condition as to marriage: Married Education: Employment status: View image Registration district: Strand Sub-registration district: St Martin In The Fields ED, institution, or vessel: 6 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Agusta M. Friend 5 b Middlesex George R. Friend 10 b Middlesex Grace A. Friend 7 b Middlesex Henry L. Friend 4 b Middlesex Jemima Friend 47 John Friend 47 Source Citation: Class: RG11; Piece: 329; Folio: 83; Page: 22; Line: ; GSU roll: 1341071

Keith I think Charlotte Page may be Ann's daughter - her name was Page before she married - she was Joseph's 3rd wife- Charlotte must have been illegitimate as on marriage entry Ann is a spinster No have not found charlotte adams - maybe she and Charlotte Page are the same person and we should be looking for Page? Alice

Alice, who do you think Charlotte Page is on the 1851? Have you found Charlotte Adams on the 1851 & 61? Keith

Thank You everyone for your help so far. Keith - I cannot find anything else for Henry - perhaps he died young? Alice

Possible birth for Henry Name: Henry Adams Year of Registration: 1848 Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec District: Plomesgate County: Suffolk Volume: 12 Page: 3[58]7 I would say the image is Page 357

In 1851 Jemima is living at 106 Market Hill Framlingham in Suffolk and is a servant to a milliner. In 1861 she is down as a cook at 5 Hyde Park Terrace at Westminster St Margaret in Middlesex.

Bethia Adams birth registration - Bethia Adams 1839 Q1 Plomesgate, Suffolk 12 350 marriage for a Bethia Adams Bethia Adams 1863 Apr-May-Jun St Martin IN The Fields London, Middlesex Jane Eve 1863 Apr-May-Jun St Martin IN The Fields London, Middlesex David Rogers 1863 Apr-May-Jun St Martin IN The Fields London, Middlesex James Stark 1863 Apr-May-Jun St Martin IN The Fields London, Middlesex Gail

Thank you Keith - I have managed to find Bethia Married called Bethia Rogers living in Wales in 1871 and 81 Alice

Yes blindasabat That is the family - Keith that does look like her - was not looking for Bethia ! I used to work in Kings Langley .... did not expect relie to turn up there!

In 1841, the are living with Joseph and Ann Adams. The children are James, George, Jemima, Charlotte, Mary Ann and Bathsheba. Looks like Keith found the right lot in 1851.

Possible 1861 Name: Bertha Adams Age: 22 Estimated birth year: abt 1839 Relation: Sister Gender: Female Where born: Lit Glenham, Suffolk, England Civil parish: Kings Langley Ecclesiastical parish: Kings Langley County/Island: Hertfordshire Country: England Street address: Occupation: Condition as to marriage: View image Registration district: Hemel Hempstead Sub-registration district: Kings Langley ED, institution, or vessel: 6 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 6 Household Members: Name Age Bertha Adams 22 Cook Charlotte Bidaege 25 not same houshold Thomas Cranley 34 Gardener Marian Smith 45 Head Source Citation: Class: RG9; Piece: 837; Folio: 55; Page: 2; GSU roll: 542709 Cannot work out image, seems that Bertha is transcribed sister to head, but shown as cook. (Serv)

Yes Keith - that is definitely the family - and I did not have Henry before. Thank you for that! Alice

I am new doing this but found on the 1841 census the following.Anne Adams abt 1811,Bathsheba abt 1839,Charlotte abt 1834,George abt 1832,James abt 1828,Joseph abt 1801,Mary Ann abt 1826. Then in 1851 found Jemima aged 17 as a servant in Frmlingham,Essex and in 1861 she is aged 27 and a servant in Westminster St Margaret,Middlesex.

Possible 1851 Name: Bethia Adams Age: 12 Estimated birth year: abt 1839 Relation: Daughter Father's name: Joseph Mother's name: Anna Gender: Female Where born: Glemham P, Suffolk, England Civil parish: Little Glemham County/Island: Suffolk Country: England Street address: Occupation: Condition as to marriage: Disability: View image Registration district: Plomesgate Sub-registration district: Earl ED, institution, or vessel: 1 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 58 Household Members: Name Age Anna Adams 39 born Blackhale/Blaxhale? Bethia Adams 12 born Glentham Hery Adams 2 born Glentham Joseph Adams 58 <- shoe maker b Campsey Ash Charlotte Page 17 born Blackhale/Blaxhale? Daughter Mary Pooley 62 Lodger Source Citation: Class: HO107; Piece: 1802; Folio: 679; Page: 14; GSU roll: 207452.

These details taken from the 1841 census: Bathsheba Adams born abt 1839 Charlotte Adams born abt 1834 Jemima Adams born abt 1833 I can find Charlotte on the 1851 and 1861, but cannot find marriage or death for any of them. would love to be able to do so and trace them on the census. I would appreciate any help with this Alice