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I received the birth and marraige cert for Hilda Mabel Tripp the lost sister of John Francis Tripp 1909. Hilda was indeed the daughter of our man of many names- Thomas James TRIPP (aka) Francis William TRIPP)b. 18 March 1883 Pancras and Annie Mabel TRIPP (ROBBINS)b. 13 June 1880 Devizes. I am still not sure when she died? I think I have found a living relative that is the son of her sons sons daughter! he said that he is not sure about her and his father is dead so its hard to know just what happend to her, although he thinks she ran a pub. She married Wiiilem L Hussey in the 1930's Q3, 1b 1423 they had a son Micahel.J. Hussey 12th Dec 1932. Maybe we will never know.

Good news - thanks for the update. What happened to the threads? I think you'll manage to get further with this. Somehow from the other threads I think that further back down the line cousin married cousin in the Tripp family as well. Regards Jennifer

Thats great Justin :) Will have a little look for a death now but didnt someone already find you a possible one? Mhairi

Good news then Justin, lets see where we can go from here.

Yes a possible death was suggested to me as circa 1943 Q1, 5C, 503 aged 42. I told that date to my mother and she thought it was too early. My mother remembered meeting her. My mother was born in 1943. Thats funny as I was told she died young so 42 would be young- unless my mother is wrong? which would not be the first time! On the marriage cert of Hilda to William Lee Hussey 12th July 1930 it says the father of William Lee Hussey was Charles Hussey and he was either a Captain or a Chaplain, living at 5 Buckridge buildings, (something).... Estate Holbourn (its hard to read). They were living together when they married. Can we know about Williams father? can we know when William died or was born? I actually spoke to Hilda's sons, sons, daughter's son! (well by email) his father sadly took his own life when he was 14 so it hard to know much about Hilda. Only look if you want to- I have not posted this or PM'd it anywhere other than putting here on this board.

i had a look from 1933 to 1941 but couldnt see a death Mhairi

Justin, what age was William on the marriage certificate?

An alleged decendent of Hilda told me the following by email if it helps the trail? See below: He said- 'My father was Michael John Hussey (known as John Michael Hussey, photographer), child of Hilda and William Hussey. I believe there was an older brother who died in childhood, named either Terence or Terry. Unfortunately my father suffered from serious mental health problems and committed suicide in the family home when I was 14 years old, so I do not have much information about him. I also had 3 sets of grandparents when I was a child, so I assume that Hilda and William divorced and remarried, but I don’t know for certain. I have photos of me and my grandfather (William I assume) in his shop in London. I think Hilda might have run a pub at some point?'

Keith The marriage cert says: Willima Lee Hussey aged 27, occupation waiter, father Charles Hussey, 'Captain or Chaplian' ? Hilda Mabel Tripp aged 23, occupation Fur Saleswoman, father Francis William Tripp (now he calles himself Francis!! not Thomas!! I give up!) occupation Insurance Officer. On Hilda's bith cert the father is named as 'Francis James Tripp' what is he playing at????????????????????!!! Did he marry a cousin? or is it just a simple admin error as some on this site have said? See the messages above this one. I have not sen this via any PM- its only shown on this board.

I was hoping that he may have been a little older so we could find him on the 1901 census drat.

I think this might be William Lee Hussey's birth reference (although I think the middle name is spelt differently - the image isn't very clear):- William LeA Hussey Sept. qtr. 1904, Melton M., 7a, 333 Kath. x

That looks sensible as Hilda was born in 1909 she liked the younger man! Can we know any death dates or anything about Hilda? I suppose I am dreaming and thinking those sites can show you anything when infact probaly just lots of names and dates. I have looked myself but am not very skilled at it. Thanks.

Justin, the indexs are just that, names and dates! The trick is to find the ones that tie up with what you know or can reasonably safely assume.

Kathleen, I saw that but was unsure, if that is it, he would only be 25/26 on marriage, but age could be wrong on cert, not unheard of.

Very few of my marriage certificates have the correct age on them. People lied for any number of reasons - sometimes making themselves appear older and sometimes younger. There is this family in Ashby de la Zouch in the 1901 census (in fact the only family of Charles Hussey's in Leicestershire) and this isn't a million miles away from Melton Mowbray (registration district):- Name: Chas St E Hussey Age: 37 Estimated birth year: abt 1864 Relation: Head Spouse's name: Josephine H Gender: Male Where born: India Civil parish: Ashby DE LA Zouch Ecclesiastical parish: St Helen Town: Ashby DE LA Zouch County/Island: Leicestershire Country: England Street address: Occupation: Condition as to marriage: Education: Employment status: View image Registration district: Ashby De-la-Zouch Sub-registration district: Ashby de la Zouch ED, institution, or vessel: 6 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 20 Household Members: Name Age Bernard J Hussey 4 Chas St E Hussey 37 Josephine H Hussey 35 Kathleen M Hussey 1 Norah J Hussey 3 Mary Pringle 16 - servant Edwin Suter 72 - father in law Source Citation: Class: RG13; Piece: 2971; Folio: 24; Page: 4 Kath. x

IF she remarried then it her death wouldnt be registered under the name Hussey. Perhaps you could ask this decendent what where the surnames of his grandparents so you could work out who remarried. If your mother remembers her, when did your parents meet/marry? That might help narrow a time frame. Mhairi

Occupation of Chas St E Hussey, Printer stationer. I wonder what the St E stood for?

Of course her name would be Hussey on the death cert not Tripp. Please don't flog a dead horse!!.......... its impossible to know. I can't order anymore certs or I'll be a debtors jail. It would be nice if there was a site that you can just type a name and DOB in and it would show you anything about that persons life if they were ever in the news. Maybe in 5 or 10 years that will be possible? for now, there is just a limited information site or a very costly search site that we all know or of course leg work to the RO at Kew. I am interested in the past and in the lives of my ancestors it is very interesting.

Think you misunderstand me a little Justin, maybe it was my wording. You said that the person you had been in touch with had said that he had three sets of grandparents so he thought that either William or Hilda had remarried. I was thinking that IF Hilda had remarried, after her marriage to William then her death wouldnt be registered under that name rather than Hussey and perhaps you should enquire about it. Even if you just keep the information to the side for the present, you'll have it for later. Is there not ment to be a new index coming out in the next few years where the mothers maiden name will be shown on all births from 1837 and not just from 1911. That'll help a wee bit but for english research your still going to have to order certs. Over time more information will be available to us over the internet but for the moment we are going to have to do it the old fashioned way. Mhairi

I will not be chasing Hilda anymore, however if any of you experts out there have time or energy and/or any good ideas please feel free to look wherever on the web and post any results you find onto this board. Thanks.