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Fred Brown. ADDED: Helen/Ellen Hensley

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ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 28 May 2026 12:27

I've given up on Fred Brown.

Now trying to find Violetta's daughter Helen/Ellen from her first marriage.

HENSLEY, HELEN mmn WILLIAMS
GRO Reference: 1907 M Quarter in EVESHAM Volume 06C Page 322

1911 :

Ellen Hensley
in the 1911 England Census
Name Ellen Hensley
Age in 1911 4
Estimated Birth Year abt 1907 [abt 1907]
Relation to Head Granddaughter
Gender Female
Birth Place Broadway
Civil parish Winchcombe
County/Island Gloucestershire
Country England
Street Address 3 Chandos Street, Winchcombe
Registration District Number 332
Sub-registration district Guiting
ED, institution, or vessel 10
Piece 15506
Household Members (Name) Age Relationship
Richard Williams 64 Head
Charles Williams 21 Son
Violetta Hensley 28 Daughter
Sidney Hensley 5 Grandson
Ellen Hensley 4 Granddaughter


1921:

Ellen Hensley
in the 1921 England Census
Name Ellen Hensley
Gender Female
Age 14 Years 5 Months
Relation to Head Daughter
Orphanhood Father Dead
Estimated Birth Year 1907
Birth Place Broadway, Worcestershire, England
Residence Date 1921
Residence Street Address Footbridge, Winchcombe
Residence Place Winchcomb, Gloucestershire, England
Occupation Home Duties
Inhabited Y
Parliamentary Division Gloucestershire Pc, Cirencester & Tewkesbury Div.
Registration District Winchcombe
Registration District Number 332
Sub registration district Guiting
Sub Registration District Number 1
Respondent Violetta Brown
Enumeration District Name Winchcombe Rd
Enumeration District 10
Schedule 10
Schedule Type Code E
Household Members (Name) Age Relationship
Violette Brown 37 Years 9 Months Head
Sidney Robert Hensley 15 Years 6 Months Son
Ellen Hensley 14 Years 5 Months Daughter
Violet Annie Brown 9 Years 8 Months Daughter
Charles Frederick Brown 5 Years 1 Month Son


But then she seems to disappear.
Ancestry suggests this is her, though she had no middle name previously.
What do you think?:

Marriages Mar 1929 (>99%)
Hensley Ellen I Maycock Evesham 6c 282
Maycock Ernest J Hensley Evesham 6c 282


Ellen J Maycock
in the 1939 England and Wales Register
Name Ellen J Maycock [Ellen J Hill] []
Gender Female
Marital Status Married
Birth Date 4 Jan 1907 <<<<<<<<
Residence Date 1939
Address 2 Brookside
Residence Place Evesham, Worcestershire, England
Occupation Unpaid Domestic Duties
Line Number 5
Schedule Number 2
Sub Schedule Number 2
Enumeration District Qjem
Borough Evesham
Registration District 379/1
Inferred Spouse
Ernest J Maycock
Household Members (Name) Gender Birth Year
Ernest J Maycock Male 1896
Ellen J Maycock Female 1907
This record is officially closed. (daughter born 1932, mmn Hensley)

They're still at that address in 1955-57 ER.

Ernest died in 1966, and Ellen remarried in 1973:

Marriages Dec 1973 (99%)
HILL RICHARD A MAYCOCK EVESHAM 9D 202
MAYCOCK HELEN I HILL EVESHAM 9D 202



Probable death - though YOB differs:

HILL, HELEN IRENE 1910
GRO Reference: DOR Q4/2004 in COLCHESTER (4691B) Reg B89C Entry Number 226


I don't see a birth of any Helen/Ellen Irene Hensley, so I'm wondering if this is indeed Violetta's daughter - without having to buy the marriage cert!

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 28 May 2026 22:15

For what it’s worth, FMP also links the 1929 marriage to the birth. Possibly for geographical reasons as much as anything.

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 29 May 2026 09:45

Thanks, ErikaH.

I think I shall assume Helen/Ellen Irene is the right woman.

Ellen/Helen Hensley is a very distant leaf on my tree, in any case, and I don't feel it's worth buying the marriage cert.
Her maternal gr-grandmother was a sister of my maternal gr-gr-grandfather.

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 29 May 2026 09:49

I would think it’s the same person - especially in view of the DoB as per 1939.

alviegal

alviegal Report 29 May 2026 13:46

I would also go along with that reasoning.

As you know only too well, the MC would be the way to go but if she is a very distant leaf on a twig, she probably is not that important to your tree.

Hopefully some time in the future something will come up to prove or disprove the marriage :-) :-)

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 29 May 2026 16:04

Yes, that's my feeling.

I'm only investigating these distant twigs because there's so little activity on the boards!