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1939 Register - Unable To Find Record

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B

B Report 30 Dec 2025 08:30

Thank you everyone for your help! :-)

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 23 Dec 2025 16:10

Yes, it is

B

B Report 23 Dec 2025 15:33

Hi Erika,

Is this the Portnall Road record?

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 23 Dec 2025 15:11

The address I posted for the ER is a multi-occupancy building..................there were also three couples registered there

HeyJudeB4Beatles

HeyJudeB4Beatles Report 23 Dec 2025 14:15

B

I have pm'd you the inquest

ArgyllGran, re the 1939 register you posted. It is quite interesting.....and there is certainly no corresponding birth full stop for that date 27/10/1910

Jude ;-)

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 23 Dec 2025 14:10

Thanks for that, Jude.

Poor child! Poor parents!

B

B Report 23 Dec 2025 13:46

Thank you so much for this information.

What awful news about Clara! Sounds horrific.

ArgyllGran, the 1939 record you’ve posted is an interesting one, Beatrice was apparently a keen cook, this could be a pure coincidence though.

HeyJudeB4Beatles

HeyJudeB4Beatles Report 23 Dec 2025 12:52

ArgyllGran

That's definitely Clara's death. Newspaper report 21 August 1900....

At Middlesbrough, yesterday, Clara Wallace, aged two years and three months, whose parents reside at 13, Chipchase Street, Linthorpe, was run over and killed by an electric tramcar whilst running across the road to join some other children.

There is a report of the inquest in the Northern Echo 22 August 1900.

13, Chipchase Street is where Robert Charles and Amelia Augusta Wallace are living in the 1901 census.

Jude

nameslessone

nameslessone Report 23 Dec 2025 10:27

As an unmarried woman Beatrice would have been eventually ‘called up’ to work in certain occupations eg, land girl, timber Jill, transport - all sorts of things.

My aunt couldn’t leave her sick mother so was sent to work for the Post Office, where she worked until she retired.

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 23 Dec 2025 01:24

Grasping at straws -

I know this is the wrong DOB - but there's no corresponding birth record:


?????
Beatrice A Wallace
in the 1939 England and Wales Register
Name Beatrice A Wallace
Gender Female
Marital Status Single
Birth Date 27 Dec 1910
Residence Date 1939
Address 8 Hereford Road
Residence Place Harrogate, Yorkshire (West Riding), England
Occupation Cook
Line Number 22
Schedule Number 146
Sub Schedule Number 3
Enumeration District Knap
Borough Harrogate
Registration District 489/2
Household Members (Name) Gender Birth Year
Charlotte Elliott Female 1867
Louisa Goodliffe Female 1883
Beatrice A Wallace Female 1910

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 23 Dec 2025 00:03

Florence in 1939:

Florence Wallace
in the 1939 England and Wales Register
Name Florence Wallace
Gender Female
Marital Status Widowed
Birth Date 4 Oct 1881
Residence Date 1939
Address 42 Costa Street
Residence Place Middlesbrough, Yorkshire (North Riding), England
Occupation Unpaid Domestic Duties
Line Number 22
Schedule Number 322
Sub Schedule Number 2
Enumeration District Jfbo
Borough Middlesbrough
Registration District 535/1
Household Members (Name) Gender Birth Year
Annie Eames Female 1875
Florence Wallace Female 1881

B

B Report 22 Dec 2025 23:37

Edith married in 1943 Liverpool.

I was unaware of a Clarissa Wallace! I will have to order the birth certificate to confirm.

Thank you everyone for your efforts! I really hope to find out about Beatrice, she had moved from Middlesbrough to London by 1944 and I am trying to work out when exactly she did travel down.

Her mother Amelia died 1907, with her father Robert remarrying in 1924 to a Florence Day who I believe died in 1955, but I can’t seem to find her on the 1939 register as well, apparently Beatrice was living with Florence up until she moved to London, this could be wrong though.

Either Beatrice and her family told a few lies or I’m just not very good with the 1939 register… :-D :-S

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 22 Dec 2025 17:42

Unfortunately, there were lots of Edith Wallaces.

If she moved to some other part of the country between 1921 and 1939, we have little hope of tracing her, especially if an incorrect DOB is given, as is often the case in 1939.
Even less hope if she married during that time.

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 22 Dec 2025 17:19

The person completing the return may not have been very good at Maths ;-) ;-) ;-)

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 22 Dec 2025 17:12


Name Beatrice Amelia Wallace
Residence Date 1947
Residence Street Address 238 Portnall Road
Residence Place Paddington, London, England

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 22 Dec 2025 17:05

That could be Edith in 1921, if her age has been put at 16 years 3 months by mistake.

Edith Maud would have been 17 years and 3 months at the time of the census on 19 June 1921.

ADDED:
The stated ages of other inmates on that 1921 census record are not all correct.
For instance, there's an Edith Firth, born Middlesbrough, said to be 17 years 3 months.
In 1939 she's still at the orphanage, now as assistant matron, with DOB said to be 10 March 1904 - which fits with her stated age in 1921.

BUT - she was actually born July-Sept 1903 (Edith Mary Firth)

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 22 Dec 2025 16:49

Name Edith Maud Wallace
Birth Date 19 Mar
Baptism Date 6 Apr 1904
Baptism Place Linthorpe, St. Barnabas, Yorkshire, England
Parish as it Appears Linthorpe, Middlesbrough
Father Robert Charles Wallace
Mother Amelia Augusta Wallace

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 22 Dec 2025 16:47

Edith in 1921?

Edith Wallace
in the 1921 England Census
Name Edith Wallace
Gender Female
Marital Status Single
Age 16 Years 3 Months
Relation to Head Inmate
Estimated Birth Year 1905
Birth Place Middlesbrough, Yorkshire, England
Residence Date 1921
Residence Place Helsington, Westmorland, England
Occupation In Training
Employer Howard Orphan House
Place of Work At Institution
Inhabited Y
Institution Howard Orphan Home Helsington Near Kendal
Parliamentary Division Westmorland Pc
Registration District Kendal
Registration District Number 581
Sub registration district Milnthorpe
Sub Registration District Number 4
Respondent Miss May McKay
Enumeration District Name South Westmorland Rd
Enumeration District 8
Schedule 53
Schedule Type Code Ii
Page number 1

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 22 Dec 2025 16:41

There are no children with the parents Robert and Amelia in 1901.

Possibly Clarissa's death?

Deaths Sep 1900 (>99%)
Wallace Clara 2 Middlesbro' 9d 389

HeyJudeB4Beatles

HeyJudeB4Beatles Report 22 Dec 2025 15:42

She had three sisters...

Clarissa May 10/05/1898
Ruth Violet 07/07/1901
Edith Maud 19/03/1904

Can't find anything on Clarissa or Edith but Ruth was in Middlesbrough Poor Law Union in 1911 (same place as Beatrice was in 1921) and was a servant in 1921. She married in 1923 to Hewison and died 1979

Their father was alive until 1929 and their mother died in 1907. In 1911 he is in prison in Dorset (which might explain why Ruth and Beatrice were in institutions) and in 1921 he is back in Middlesbrough. Clarissa is not on the 1901 census but I can't find a death for her.

Did you know about these? Doesn't help finding Beatrice in 1939 (only one I can find in 1939 is Ruth)

Jude