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You were quite right to query the 19-year gap, as it simply didn’t exist!! It was falsely created by the inaccurate ‘info’ in the book

Thanks. It's definitely a challenge. I do like to verify info myself, that's why it takes me so long :-)
The red flag went up as soon as I saw that 19 year difference.
I'll keep on plodding. Thank you.

We enjoy the hunt…..and the challenge. Keeps our brains ticking over ;-) ;-)

The book may have been compiled before a lot of the info became available so it might be wise not to rely too much on its ‘info’

Do your own research, or if you’re stuck, get help on here where people have many, many years of experience of researching FH and have no preconceptions about the people being researched

I've added to my last post, showing Janet/Jessie's death and proving she wasn't born 1833.

Keep at it, Yvonne - practice makes perfect, so they say!

No idea how old the book is. It belongs to my son-in-law's family.
Andrew is part of that family.
What I am trying to do is a 'family tree' for my grandchildren, of which one half is the Dicksons.
You all never fail to amaze me at how you find stuff. I really try to dig but somehow never get to where you do. All I can do is say thank you, it really is appreciated.

Catherine Thomson Wallace is in 5 trees on Ancestry.

Only one of them names her mother, with wrong DOB (1841), but correct parents' names.

The tree "belongs" to an Andrew Dickson, who lives in Ottawa, Canada.

He also lists Janet Jessie Wallace 1833, and gives her death as in 1906 in Edinburgh.

He clearly hasn't done the arithmetic, as this is her death on SP, implying that she was born c1826 - presumably the one actually born 1824 as already shown:

WALLACE
JANET
80
mmn HAY
F
1906
685 / 4 / 252
St Giles

It would appear that the book is not an old one with contemporaneous facts, but one compiled much more recently, and therefore less likely to be fully accurate

To summarise what has been found for you……….
Catherine Hay was the mother of Catherine Wallace, born c1821, who was, in turn, the mother of Catherine Thomson WALLACE, born illegitimately in 1861.

What are you trying to prove, please?

Good news about finding info re your other thread. :-) :-)

Thanks for all this. I'm just trying to digest it all but it looks like there definitely was another Catherine between Catherine Hay and Catherine Thomson, and that certainly makes more sense. Since starting this post I did find the one born 1820 but couldn't make a proper connection. I did search all the sites I mentioned but you all seem to be far more successful than me. Probably down to me being a bit technologically impaired!!!
The book is one that someone in the Dickson family has done but when it got to David Wallace and Catherine Hay there were no dates mentioned so I was working a bit blind.
Thanks so much.
Note to Erika: I did reply to your post but it got returned to me, I tried again and it wasn't returned but never appeared in my sent folder. Sorry about that.
The post was very helpful and I did find lots of information. Thank you.

No probs, ErikaH.

Apologies, AG, didn’t spot your Dickson post…….distracted by hungry OH

Her death ?? NOTE MMN:

WALLACE
CATHERINE
52
mmn HAY <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
F
1872
417 / 14
Crail


So born c1820-21 - definitely not 1841!


No wonder she's not with her parents in any census !

The same woman in 1851:

Cath Wallace
in the 1851 Scotland Census
Name Cath Wallace
Age 30
Estimated Birth Year abt 1821
Relationship Servant
Gender Female
Where born Kilrenny, fifeshire
Parish Number 622
Civil parish Barony
County Lanarkshire
Address 17 Woodside Place
Occupation House Servant
ED 47
Page 22
Household schedule number 58
Line 1
Roll CSSCT1851_144
Household Members (Name) Age Relationship
John Anderson 59 Head
Frances Anderson 46 Wife
Wm Anderson 23 Son
John M Anderson 15 Son
Frances Andersons 14 Daughter
Henry Anderson 12 Son
Caroline Anderson 8 Daughter
Cath Wallace 30 Servant
Jessie Bryce 24 Servant
Donaldson 25 Servant
Margt Pomfrey 33 Servant

And certainly not born 1841……

Her death might help…..

Yvonne says she has accessed all the sites we use, so we can’t find anything she can’t

Can’t look now…..OH wants his lunch

If that's her, she has called herself a widow to save face. She wasn't married.

Possibly the same woman below???
Still no baptism record, though.

Catherine Wallace
in the 1841 Scotland Census
Name Catherine Wallace
Age 20
Estimated Birth Year abt 1821
Gender Female
Where born Fife, Scotland
Civil parish Anstruther Easter
County Fife
Address Anstr Place
Occupation F S
Parish Number 402
Household Members (Name) Age
Catherine Wallace 20
Margaret Currie 35
May Robertson 26

There is only one Catherine born c1861 with a mother Catherine in Edinburgh on 1871 census

1871 England, Wales & Scotland Census
38, Jamaica Street, St Stephen Edinburgh, St Andrews, Midlothian, Scotland

Catherine Wallace - Widow Female 50 1821 Shop keeper Kilrenny, Fife, Scotland
Catherine Wallace Daughter - Female 9 1862 Scholar St Cuthbert's, Midlothian, Scotland

WALLACE
CATHERINE THOMS
F
1861
685 / 1 / 1200
St George

Above is Midlothian

Baptism on FMP names mother as Catherine Wallace
Do you have the birth cert???????

from the opening post
" Catherine Thomson who went on to marry George Dickson"

DICKSON
GEORGE
WALLACE
CATHERINE THOMS
1880
417 / 1
Crail

Do you have the cert?????????

Did you miss the earlier baptisms on SP, Yvonne?
Regarding another of your threads, you didn't respond to my PM.........................

Are David and Catherine actually named as the parents of the girls listed in the 'family book'?
Is a location given for their baptisms?

Are these your relations??

Re the grand-daughter Davidina (supposedly born c1844) in the 1851 census -

in 1861 she's listed as a daughter of David, and called Jessie D.
In 1871 she's Davinna, and back to being a grand-daughter.

There's no sign of her baptism on SP.


Death:

WALLACE
JESSIE DAVINA
63
mmn WALLACE
F
1907
417 / 7
Crail