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21 Jul 2025 17:19 |
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Interesting - Thank you
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ArgyllGran
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20 Jul 2025 18:09 |
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Possibly "Milly" ??? Just a suggestion - her father Alexander might have been a brother of William??
No way to prove it.
Amelia Thomson in the 1851 Scotland Census Name Amelia Thomson Age 22 Estimated Birth Year abt 1829 Relationship Servant Gender Female Where born Preston Paris, East Lothian [Prestonpans, East Lothian] Parish Number 685/2 Civil parish Edinburgh St Cuthberts County Midlothian Address 25 Earl Grey St Occupation House Servt ED 35A Page 7 Household schedule number 31 Line 12 Roll CSSCT1851_183 Household Members (Name) Age Relationship Andrew Grieve 38 Head Sarah Grieve 40 Wife Mary A Grieve 22 Daughter Samuel A Grieve 21 Son Graham Grieve 12 Son Amelia Thomson 22 Servant
Baptism ??
THOMSON AMELIA ALEXANDER THOMSON/AMELIA WATSON FR2154 (FR2154) F 08/10/1828 718 80 / 84 Prestonpans
Parents' marriage ??
THOMSON ALEXANDER MYLES /WATSON FR2332 (FR2332) 11/11/1825 718 90 / 33 Prestonpans
Can't see Alexander and Mylie/Emily in 1841, nor definite deaths for them before that.
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Kelly
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20 Jul 2025 17:10 |
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Thanks for the hint for downloading the images, the certificates at £15 were getting a bit expensive.
Your advice is always welcome, my ambition is to be as good as you guys, and I promise I won't make any assumptions.
Thank you all, I am very much looking forward to my visit to Canty Bay & North Berwick.
My 3 offspring are taking me their for my 60th birthday :) Have a great summer
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ArgyllGran
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20 Jul 2025 13:37 |
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Re 1841 census;
James Thomson in 1841 census is possibly William's father - but no way to prove that. Possibly his death ??:
THOMSON JAMES ----- 51 M 31/10/1841 718 90 / 240 Prestonpans
William's baptism isn't showing on Scotland's People.
Ages stated in 1841 were frequently inaccurate, so don't assume Milly was definitely born c1829. There's no baptism for Milly on SP, in any year, with any parents. No marriage or death, either, as far as I can see.
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ErikaH
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20 Jul 2025 12:29 |
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Address in 1881 was HERIOT Place.................
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ErikaH
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20 Jul 2025 12:08 |
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This MAY be William's death...........buy CREDITS (as advised on your earlier threads) to download the image. No need to buy the cert!
THOMSON WILLIAM 80 ----- M 1891 713 / 47 North Berwick
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ErikaH
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20 Jul 2025 11:53 |
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Are you making use of Scotland's People website?
It should be your 'best friend' ..................
NB: 1841 does not show relationships..................until you can prove it, don't assume any of the children other than Mary are offspring of the 1831 marriage.
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ErikaH
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20 Jul 2025 11:20 |
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1841 and 1851 censuses were posted by Argyllgran a few days ago
Do not make any assumptions...................ever. That is a piece of advice I was given many years ago, and it is wise to heed it. You were the only one attaching Mary Buchan to your family ;-) ;-) ;-) Thomson is such a common name - there may be no connection.............or a close one. Only careful research will give you the answer.
Good luck with your further research
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Kelly
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20 Jul 2025 09:56 |
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I have just checked out 1841 William Thomson in the 1841 Scotland Census Name William Thomson Age 30 Estimated Birth Year abt 1811 Gender Male Where born East Lothian, Scotland Civil parish Prestonpans County East Lothian Address Prestonpans Occupation Seaman Parish Number 718 Household Members (Name) Age James Thomson 50 – seaman – How related ? William Thomson 30 - seaman Janet Thomson 25 George Thomson 6 Milly Thomson 12 - Born 2 years before James & Janet wed ? on 18/12/1831 Mary Thomson 2
It seems by 1851 - Janet James & Millie have gone ?
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Kelly
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20 Jul 2025 08:54 |
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Hi Erica, thank you for all your work and you are right, there was a mistake with the year of William Thomson born 1815, That is corrected.
I have ordered marriage certificate for Mary Thomson & George Kelly to confirm but from reading Abby's notice regarding Mary's parents we have her mother as Janet Thomson NOT Mary BUCHAN as previously thought Name George Kelly Age 22 years Birth Year (Estimated) 1837 Marital Status Single Occupation Fisherman Father's Name James Kelly Father's Sex Male Mother's Name Janet Hogg Kelly Mother's Sex Female Spouse's Name Mary Thomson Spouse's Age 22 years Spouse's Birth Year (Estimated) 1837 Spouse's Marital Status Single Spouse's Father's Name William Thomson Spouse's Father's Sex Male Spouse's Mother's Name Janet Thomson Thomson Spouse's Mother's Sex Female Event Type Marriage Event Date 20 May 1859 Event Place North Berwick, Haddingtonshire, Scotland, United Kingdom
Thank you for the marriage of William & Janet Thomson , having the same surname could indicate they are distant cousins? Were first cousins aloud to marry ? THOMSON, WILLIAM JANET THOMSON/FR2348 (FR2348) 18/12/1831 718 90 / 65 Prestonpans
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Kelly
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18 Jul 2025 21:05 |
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Thank you everyone I have alot to be getting on with.
I have an appointment at the scottish Fisherie Museum , John Gray centre, and I've been invited down to Canty bay . Very excited
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ErikaH
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18 Jul 2025 20:59 |
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You really must read the latest info on the previous page
You should have downloaded the marriage certificate………..the info you’ve got is incomplete, and you can’t do FH research with only partial info. That’s the way to get things very wrong.
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Kelly
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18 Jul 2025 20:55 |
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My Mary Thomson was born 1837 and died 1922 aged 85
George Kelly married Mary Thomson May 1859 Name: George Kelly Gender: Male Marriage Date: 20 May 1859 Marriage Place: North Berwick, East Lothian, Scotland Spouse: Mary Thomson FHL Film Number: 6035516 Dwelling: 7 Heriot Place, Haddington, North Berwick Scotland
By 1861 Census George Kelly and Mary Kelly have moved in with Mary's father William Thomson - Head - From Prestonpan aged 55 living at Shore street with their 2 year old son James Kelly By 1871 George Kelly & Mary Thomson still living at Shore Street. They have six children and a lodger - probably Mary father William Thomson from Prestonpans . George is listed as a fisherman. - Head Richard is listed as one year old. By 1881 the family are living at 7 Heriot Place in North Berwick but by this time ( 1880) George has died. Given that Elizabeth is three years old it is likely that George died after 1877.
In 1891 the family is living at 9 Heriot Place (although there is a possibility it is still the same house, the numbering having changed).
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ErikaH
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18 Jul 2025 20:55 |
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I hope the OP returns before rushing off to Cockenzie on a wild goose chase………
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Abby
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18 Jul 2025 20:14 |
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Field (only fields with a value are shown) Value County East Lothian Place (Links to more information) North Berwick Church name (Links to more information) North Berwick Vol Vii Register type (Links to more information) Unspecified Register entry number 22 Marriage date 7 Dec 1822 Groom forename James Groom surname KELLY Groom parish North Berwick Groom condition Bachelor Bride forename Janet Bride surname HOGG Bride parish North Berwick Bride condition Spinster Notes Proclamation Transcribed by Mary Hamilton Credit by the General Register Office for Scotland File line number 34
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ArgyllGran
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18 Jul 2025 18:19 |
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Mary Thomson in the 1851 Scotland Census Name Mary Thomson Age 13 Estimated Birth Year abt 1838 Relationship Daughter Father William Thonson Gender Female Where born Prestonpans, haddington Parish Number 718 Civil parish Prestonpans Town Prestonpans County East Lothian Address High Street ED 5 Page 2 Household schedule number 9 Line 18 Roll CSSCT1851_193 Household Members (Name) Age Relationship William Thonson 32 Head - sailor George Thomson 15 Son - coal miner Mary Thomson 13 Daughter
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ArgyllGran
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18 Jul 2025 17:48 |
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Possibly the family in 1841??
William Thomson in the 1841 Scotland Census Name William Thomson Age 30 Estimated Birth Year abt 1811 Gender Male Where born East Lothian, Scotland Civil parish Prestonpans County East Lothian Address Prestonpans Occupation Seaman Parish Number 718 Household Members (Name) Age James Thomson 50 - seaman William Thomson 30 - seaman Janet Thomson 25 George Thomson 6 Milly Thomson 12 Mary Thomson 2
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ArgyllGran
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18 Jul 2025 17:32 |
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Mary's baptism is not on Scotlands People - nor are any siblings' baptisms.
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ArgyllGran
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18 Jul 2025 17:28 |
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Mary's parents' marriage??
THOMSON, WILLIAM JANET THOMSON/FR2348 (FR2348) 18/12/1831 718 90 / 65 Prestonpans
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ErikaH
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18 Jul 2025 16:55 |
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So, as I suspected, the 1851 census is NOT in any way relevant
Thank you Abby
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