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Graham
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22 Mar 2024 14:37 |
Hello I am trying to find Robert Chick in the 1881 and 1891 censuses. I have had no success after looking for quite some time and hoped that you may be able to help me please. Robert was born in Southampton on the 12th May 1865. His father James Chick died in 1864 before his son's birth. His Mother Grace Chick nee Mitchell died in 1874. Both deaths in Southampton. Grace and children James, Isabella and Robert were in Southampton on the 1871 census. The next document I can find is the marriage for Robert Chick to Eliza Mary Norton formerly Yates on the 9th Feb 1896 in Fulham. Thank you Rich
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Graham
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22 Mar 2024 14:58 |
Robert Chick
in the 1871 England Census
Name Robert Chick Age 6 Estimated Birth Year 1865 Relation Son Gender Male Where born Southampton Hampshire England Civil parish All Saints Ecclesiastical parish St Paul Town Southampton County/Island Hampshire Country England Registration district Southampton Sub-registration district Southampton ED, institution, or vessel 34 Household schedule number 141 Piece 1192 Folio 18 Page number 30 Household Members (Name) Age Relationship Grace Chick 44 Wife James Chick 16 Son Isabella Chick 12 Daughter Robert Chick 6 Son
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Maddie
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22 Mar 2024 15:21 |
in 1911 ??? 1911 Census For England & Wales 107 Bullow Road, Fulham, London & Middlesex, England View original record Household members (10 people) First name(s) Last name Relationship to head Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place Robert Chick Head Married Male 45 1866 General labourer Hampshire Southampton Eliza Mary Chick Wife Married Female 43 1868 Housekeeper London Kensington Elizabeth Annie Yates Chick Daughter Single Female 21 1890 Factory hand London Fulham Isabella Julia Chick Daughter Single Female 14 1897 Factory hand London Fulham James Chick Son Single Male 13 1898 At school London Fulham Robert George Chick Son - Male 11 1900 At school London Fulham Grace Chick Daughter Single Female 9 1902 At school London Fulham Jane Chick Daughter Single Female 7 1904 At school London Fulham Annie Maud Chick Daughter Single Female 5 1906 At school London Fulham Edith Gertrude Chick Daughter Single Female 3 1908 At school London Fulham
A tree on ancestry has been unable to find the family in those census
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Graham
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22 Mar 2024 15:45 |
Hi Maddie Yes, I noticed that. I guessed it was going to be something like a transcription error but have had no joy yet
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ErikaH
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22 Mar 2024 16:37 |
?? First name(s) Robert Document type Discharge Last name Chick Archive reference WO 97 Birth year 1866 Series Wo 97 - Chelsea Pensioners British Army Service Records 1760-1913 Service number 2354 Box 2492 Private Box record number 85 Regiment - Archive The National Archives Year 1892 Country Great Britain Discharge date 12 Aug 1892 Record set British Army Service Records Discharge age years 26 Category Military, armed forces & conflict Discharge age months 1 Subcategory Regimental & Service Records Discharge corps 2nd Bn West Riding Regiment Collections from Great Britain, UK None Discharge service number 2354
Discharged in Liverpool
Intended place of residence after discharge.....58 Fulham Road, London
Unfortunately, he was 'sentenced to be discharged with ignominy'
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ArgyllGran
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22 Mar 2024 16:41 |
I'm glad you posted that, ErikaH.
I've been squinting at the small blurred image on Ancestry, only viewable properly on Fold3, trying to make it out. I could see mention of Fulham, so thought it might be relevant.
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ErikaH
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22 Mar 2024 16:42 |
:-D :-D
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ArgyllGran
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22 Mar 2024 16:44 |
??? Also only viewable on Fold3 -
Robert Chick in the UK, Naval and Military Courts Martial Registers, 1806-1930 Name Robert Chick Court or Trial Date 2 Feb 1892 Court or Trial Place Halifax N. S. Regiment W. Riding
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Jink20
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22 Mar 2024 17:10 |
His NOK is sister listed as Mrs Fairchild at Fulham Road
Service record is available on FMP
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Graham
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22 Mar 2024 17:22 |
Well done and thank you very much :-D
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ArgyllGran
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22 Mar 2024 17:35 |
Don't see a Chick / Fairchild marriage.
His sister Isabella married John Benjamin Butler in 1884 , but died in 1885, so the NOK sister isn't her.
Another sister, Agnes, was born in 1861, but died in 1864.
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ErikaH
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22 Mar 2024 17:43 |
The trial was for desertion, and resulted in imprisonment. He joined up in 1887
Address for Mrs Fairchild was 569 Clapham Road
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Jink20
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22 Mar 2024 18:27 |
A tree on FMP suggests the following:
SIBLINGS
Robert James Chick Gender Male Birth 21 November 1853 Weymouth, Dorset, England
James Chick Gender Male Birth abt 1854 Weymouth, Dorset, England
Name Albert Chick Gender Male Birth 19 Nov 1855 Franchise Street, Weymouth, Dorset, England Living status Deceased 31 May 1926 Royal Hospital, Chelsea, London, England
Name ****same person as per ArgyllGran entry 22 Mar 2024 17:35 ??****** Isabella Chick Gender Female Birth Mar 1858 Weymouth, Dorset, England Living status Deceased 26 January 1885
Name Robert Chick Gender Male Birth 12 May 1865 Southampton St Mary, Hampshire, England Living status Deceased 1942 Fulham Middlesex
PARENTS
Grace Nosseter Mitchell 1826 - 1874
James Chick 1817 - 1864
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ArgyllGran
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22 Mar 2024 18:37 |
I think Mrs Fairchild is Robert's half-sister.
ErikaH posted the address 569 Clapham Road for Mrs Fairchild.
In 1891 there's a Samuel Fairchild and family at 569 Wandsworth Road, Clapham. Wife Catherine born in Weymouth, Dorset.
Samuel Fairchild in the 1891 England Census Name Samuel Fairchild Gender Male Age 41 Relationship Head Birth Year 1850 Spouse Catherine Fairchild Child George Fairchild Birth Place Southampton Civil parish Clapham Ecclesiastical parish St Pauls Residence Place Clapham, Clapham, London, England Registration district Wandsworth Sub registration district Clapham ED, Institution or Vessel 9 Neighbors Piece 441 Folio 6 Household Members (Name) Age Relationship Samuel Fairchild 41 Head Catherine Fairchild 41 Wife George Fairchild 17 Son
FAIRCHILD, GEORGE COOPER mmn COOPER GRO Reference: 1874 M Quarter in SOUTHAMPTON Volume 02C Page 25
Robert's mother Grace was previously married to a Cooper.
James Click in the Dorset, England, Church of England Marriages and Banns, 1813-1921 Name James Click [Chick] Gender Male Marriage Age 33 Birth Year abt 1820 Marriage Date 23 Feb 1853 Marriage Place Wyke Regis, Dorset, England Father John Click Spouse Grace Cooper
In the 1861 census there's a Caroline Cooper , aged 11, with James and Grace, described as "daughter-in-law" which would mean step-daughter of James.
COOPER, CAROLINE JANE mmn MITCHELL GRO Reference: 1846 D Quarter in WEYMOUTH Volume 08 Page 139
I think Catherine Fairchild (nee Coooper) may be Caroline Jane, even though her age doesn't match the birth record.
Marriages Dec 1870 (>99%) COOPER Catherine Jane Cardiff 11a 449 FAIRCHILD Samuel Caleb G Cardiff 11a 449
Catherine Fairchild in the 1871 Wales Census Name Catherine Fairchild Age 22 Estimated Birth Year abt 1849 Relation Wife Spouse's Name Samuel Fairchild Gender Female Where born Weymouth, Dorset, England Civil parish St Mary Ecclesiastical parish St Mary Town Cardiff County/Island Glamorgan Country Wales Registration district Cardiff Sub-registration district Cardiff ED, institution, or vessel 18b Household schedule number 233 Piece 5363 Folio 53 Page number 21 Household Members (Name) Age Relationship Samuel Fairchild 24 Head Catherine Fairchild 22 Wife
Catherine Jane Fairchild in the UK and Ireland, Find a GraveĀ® Index, 1300s-Current Name Catherine Jane Fairchild Maiden Name Cooper Birth Date 21 Nov 1848 Death Date 22 Apr 1929 Cemetery Fulham Palace Road Cemetery Burial or Cremation Place Fulham, London Borough of Hammersmith and Fulham, Greater London, England Has Bio? N Spouse Samuel Caleb George Fairchild Children Laura Isabel Fairchild 1877-1879 Eliza Grace Fairchild 1871 - 1883
FAIRCHILD, ELIZA GREEN mmn COOPER GRO Reference: 1871 D Quarter in CARDIGAN Volume 11B Page 6
FAIRCHILD, LAURA ISABEL mmn COOPER GRO Reference: 1877 M Quarter in EDMONTON Volume 03A Page 252
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ErikaH
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22 Mar 2024 18:38 |
Easy enough to verify names of siblings by using the GRO site
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ArgyllGran
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22 Mar 2024 18:56 |
In 1881 Eliza Grace/Green is with her Fairchild grandparents in Southampton:
Grace Fairchild in the 1881 England Census Name Grace Fairchild Age 9 Estimated Birth Year abt 1872 Relationship to Head Granddaughter Gender Female Where born Cardiganshire, Wales Civil parish Southampton St Mary County/Island Hampshire Country England Street Address 36 Albert Street Registration district Southampton Sub registration district Southampton ED, institution, or vessel 22 Neighbors Piece 1209 Folio 21 Page number 35 Household Members (Name) Age Relationship George Fairchild 57 Head Eliza Fairchild 58 Wife Alfred Fairchild 18 Son Grace Fairchild 9 Granddaughter Lillie Russel 7 Boarder Henry Swanson 52 Boarder James Chick 25 Boarder - born London John Hobbs 56 Lodger John Hoppar 59 Lodger Albion Andrews 45 Lodger
There's also a James Chick in that household - maybe some relative ???
Although the census gives his birthplace as London, Ancestry suggests he's James Charles Chick, born on the Isle of Wight. Parents Charles Chick and Margaret Joliffe.
CHICK, JAMES CHARLES mmn JOLLIFFE GRO Reference: 1855 D Quarter in ISLE OF WIGHT Volume 02B Page 426
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Jink20
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23 Mar 2024 12:35 |
Sent OP a PM with information on how to access Court Martial records from TNA
Reference: WO 90/4 Description: Judge Advocate General's Office: general courts martial registers, abroad Date: 1866-1900
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Graham
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24 Mar 2024 10:58 |
This has all been so very helpful. I am so appreciative of everyone :-D
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Graham
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24 Mar 2024 16:33 |
Hi Again
There is really just one thing that I would like to know and that is what happened to Robert Chick's son also named Robert. He was born on the 7th March 1898 in Fulham. He married Florence Agnes Alderson on the 25th December 1921 in Fulham. On the 1939 Register Florence A Chick appears as married with two of their children Denis A Chick and James Chick but no husband James. The last birth of a child I can find for them was Benjamin J Chick born in 1938 I have spoken with my relative born in 1957 who was the grandson of James who says that he presumed he had died before his birth as he has no recollection of him. Frustratingly there is noone remaining in the family that knows and I am unable to see a death record. Can anyone see if they can help with a death for James? Many Thanks
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Graham
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24 Mar 2024 16:34 |
Wasn't sure if I should keep this on the same post or not?
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