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Hello
Am hoping someone may be able to help me find Evan and family before 1851 please? I have his marriage certificate dated 23rd Dec 1848 in Cardiff to Mary Ann Dobell. On here is shown his father as John Evans a Farmer. Evan Evans occupation says School Master residing at Working? Street, Cardiff. Full age given for both Evan and Mary.
I am hoping to find a baptism for Evan and hopefully with parents on the 1841 census. Here is the 1851 census...hope you can help

Evan Evans in the 1851 Wales Census
Name Evan Evans
Age 31
Estimated Birth Year abt 1820
Relation Head
Spouse's Name Mary Evans
Gender Male
Where born Pencoyd, Glamorgan, Wales
Civil Parish or Township Coity Lower
County/Island Glamorgan
Country Wales
Registration district Bridgend
Sub-registration district Maesteg
ED, institution, or vessel 8b
Piece 2461
Folio 621
Page number 10
Household schedule number 25
Household Members (Name) Age Relationship
Evan Evans 31 Head
Mary Evans 31 Wife
David Evans 3 M Son

When looking for baptisms you need to be aware that a lot of ‘Chapel’ records were not kept.

In 1851 as per your post he is shown as a farm labourer,,,,,,,,,something of a change from his marriage cert

Looking at Genuki for Pencoed it would appear that Chapel baptism records are not available after 1809 and the Anglican church’s have not deposited their records at all.

Given the difference in occupations and a common name - are you sure that both are the same man?

just checking something back in 10

Here is an 1851 Census on FMP. Is this the same Evan??

1851 England, Wales & Scotland Census
42, Union Street, St John Baptist, Cardiff, Glamorganshire, Wales

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place

Evan J Evans Head Widower Male 30 1821 Master of british school Carmarthenshire, Wales

Margaret Evans Sister Unmarried Female 17 1834 Assistant teacher Newport, Monmouthshire, Wales

Mary A Dobell Mother-in-law Married Female 64 1787 House keeper Devon, England

Evan Evans Lodger - Male 13 1838 Scholar Carmarthenshire, Wales

1851 census is correct however it looks like I have the wrong marriage. Sorry to waste your time

More children on the 1861 census

Evan Evans
in the 1861 Wales Census

Name Evan Evans Age 40
Estimated Birth Year abt 1821
Relation Head
Spouse's Name Mary Ann Evans
Gender Male
Where born Pencoed, Glamorgan, Wales
Civil Parish or Township Coity
County/Island Glamorgan
Country Wales
Registration district Bridgend
Sub-registration district Bridgend
ED, institution, or vessel 5
Household schedule number 213
Neighbors
Piece 4077
Folio 89
Page number 38

Household Members (Name)
Age
Relationship
Evan Evans 40 Head
Mary Ann Evans 41 Wife
David Evans 10 Son
Francis Evans 8 Son
William Evans 6 Son
Evan Evans 4 Son
Eliza Ann Evans 2 Daughter

Hi Jink
The census for 1851 that you have posted and the 1848 marriage that I posted are both incorrect. The 1851 and 1861 censuses that I posted are both correct

Also a Richard Evans born 1861 Bridgend

How did you work back to these people?

You need to establish Mary’s maiden name beyond doubt.

I have just looked on the GRO and Richard who was born 1861, Evan 1856 and Eliza Ann born 1859 all Bridgend had Mothers Maiden name WRIGHT

On the 1861 census Mother was Mary Ann Evans

I have just found a marriage in 1849 Bridgend between Evan Evans and Mary Ann(e) Wright. so I mistakenly chose the Dobell marriage and will have to reorder

Thank you for putting me on the WRIGHT track :-D :-D

Marriage info on FMP

Marriage place Coity

Father’s name William Evans

Mary’s father Francis Wright

Oh thank you very much :-)

[Oops, you've deleted your last post, asking where to find all the marriage details.]


On Ancestry -

Evan Evans
in the Glamorganshire, Wales, Anglican Baptisms, Marriages and Burials, 1570-1994
Name Evan Evans
Gender Male
Marriage Age Full Age
Record Type Marriage
Marriage Date 6 Oct 1849
Marriage Place Coity, Glamorganshire, Wales
Father William Evans
Spouse Mary Anne Wright
Page number 56

The image of the cert shows full age for both of them, bachelor and spinster.
Evan is a labourer. Father is William Evans, labourer.
Address at marriage is Evenny ? Ewenny?

Mary's address was Coyty; father Francis Wright, a smith

Marriage was at the Parish Church, Coyty.
Witnesses were Francis Wright and Cecilia Rees.

Thank you very much :-)

I don't suppose there is any chance of finding Evan Evans on the 1841 census?
Born around 1821
1851 in Coity Lower
Supposedly born in Pencoed
Father William
Struggling with this now
Unable to see a baptism in Pencoed

You have as much chance as any of us of finding him in 1841……

Aged around 20, probably not with family - and birthplaces are not recorded in 1841

As Evan's address when he married was Ewenny, this may PERHAPS be a possibility:

Evan Evans
in the 1841 Wales Census
Name Evan Evans
Age 20
Estimated Birth Year abt 1821
Gender Male
Where born Glamorgan, Wales
Civil parish Ewenny <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
Hundred Ogmore
County/Island Glamorgan
Country Wales
Registration district Brigend
Sub-registration district Bridgend
Neighbors
Piece 1423
Book 7
Folio 8
Page number 7
Household Members (Name) Age
William Evans 65 - Farmer ? Farrier?
Elizabeth Evans 65
Evan Evans 20
Davies Evans 15
Jane Evans 25

All born in Glamorgan.