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Delboy1978

Delboy1978 Report 9 Feb 2024 17:02

Hi All

Trying to locate some of these post 1851/1841 Census

Robert and Harriett Evans are my 3rd GG parents and had the following children.

Mary Ann Evans (my 2nd G Grandmother): I have her in 1841 Census but she does not marry my 2nd G Grandfather until 1855 but cannot find her in 1851.

John Evans: I have researched this line so am okay here.

I suspect Robert and Harriet died between 1851 and 1861 but cannot see any death records that would fit.

Edit Robert Evans died between 1851 and 1855! note is on the marriage cert for Mary Ann

George Thomas Evans & Frederic Evans and Edward Evans I have been going through death records just in case but not seeing anything.

Any help would be appreciated.

1841 Census
Name Robert Evans
Age 40
Estimated Birth Year abt 1801
Gender Male
Civil parish St George Middlesex
Hundred Ossulstone (Tower Division)
County/Island Middlesex
Country England
Street address:Occupation
Registration district St George in the East
Sub-registration district St Mary
Neighbors View others on page
Piece 696
Book 9
Folio 29
Page number 17
Household members
Name Age
Robert Evans 40
Harriett Evans 35
John Evans 12
Mary Evans 9
George Evans 5
Fredric Evans 3
Edward Evans 4 Mo

1851 Census

Name Robert Evans
Age 52
Estimated Birth Year abt 1799
Relation Head
Spouse's Name Hariet Evans
Gender Male
Where born Shropshire, England
Civil parish St George in the East
County/Island Middlesex
Country England
Registration district St George In The East
Sub-registration district St Mary
ED, institution, or vessel 08
Neighbors View others on page
Household schedule number 212
Piece 1547
Folio 229
Page number 42
Household members
Name Age
Robert Evans 52
Hariet Evans 47
John Evans 20

I believe this is Robert and Harriett Marriage
Name Robert Evans
Gender Male
Record Type Marriage
Marriage Date 10 Nov 1823
Marriage Place St Martin in the Fields, Westminster, Westminster, England
Spouse Harriet Blowers
Register Type Bishop's Transcript

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 9 Feb 2024 17:18

Have you got the marriage cert for her address. And whether her father is noted as deceased

Who did she marry ?

Delboy1978

Delboy1978 Report 9 Feb 2024 17:19

No, cos they didnt do marriage certs in 1823? or am I wrong..

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 9 Feb 2024 17:20

You said she married in 1855 !

Delboy1978

Delboy1978 Report 9 Feb 2024 17:30

Sorry that was for Mary Ann Evans who I cant find in 1851 census but married in 1855 she lived at 5 Warner Place and she married George Hills who lived at 27 Warner Place in Bethnal Green.

Ive looked at it again and its says Robert Evans was deceased so that answers a question...staring at me in the face!!

I have edited my post to make it clearer who/What I am asking about.

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 9 Feb 2024 17:37

Well he may not have died in St George in the east if he was in hospital in another reg district

Have you found Harriet on later census

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 9 Feb 2024 17:41

Just as a confirmation!

EVANS, EDWARD JAMES BLOWERS
GRO Reference: 1841 M Quarter in SAINT GEORGE (IN THE EAST) IN THE COUNTY OF MIDDLE Volume 02 Page 92

Delboy1978

Delboy1978 Report 9 Feb 2024 17:45

No havnt found her at all.

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 9 Feb 2024 17:58

Just trying to locate the other children on the 1841 census that aren’t with Robert in 1851

So

Name George Thomas Evans
Gender Male
Birth Date 24 Nov 1834
Baptism Date 1 Nov 1835
Baptism Place Saint Anne Soho,Westminster,London,England
Father
Robert Evans
Mother
Harriet
FHL Film Number 918606, 918607, 918608

But not seeing him after the 1841 census

greyghost

greyghost Report 9 Feb 2024 18:01

For places of birth - from FMP

1851 England, Wales & Scotland Census
Morgan Street, Saint George in the East, St George in the East, London & Middlesex, England

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Robert Evans Head Married Male 52 1799 Carpenter master Shropshire, England
Harriet Evans Wife Married Female 47 1804 - Chelmsford, Essex, England
John Evans Son Unmarried Male 20 1831 Picture frame maker Middlesex, England

John born Middx - St Anne's Soke

(Soke - literal meaning - jurisdiction)

Delboy1978

Delboy1978 Report 9 Feb 2024 18:03

Edward James Evans Died in 1841 and have purchased digital DC and confirms its him

greyghost

greyghost Report 9 Feb 2024 18:04

There is not a Harriet Evans born 1805 +/- 5 years in Essex showing on the 1861 census

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 9 Feb 2024 18:19

There was also a Robert

EVANS, ROBERT BLOWERS
GRO Reference: 1842 D Quarter in SAINT GEORGE (IN THE EAST) IN THE COUNTY OF MIDDLE Volume 02 Page 87

Name Robert Evans
Gender Male
Record Type Baptism
Baptism Date 24 Jan 1843
Baptism Place St George in the East, Tower Hamlets, England
Father
Robert Evans
Mother
Harriet Evans
Register Type Parish Register

Delboy1978

Delboy1978 Report 9 Feb 2024 18:38

Thank you, have added Robert to the records.

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 9 Feb 2024 19:12

Not seeing him after his baptism though

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 9 Feb 2024 19:15

Name Robert William Evans
Age 0
Birth Date Abt 1824
Baptism Date 3 Sep 1824
Baptism Place St Martin-In-The-Fields, London, Westminster, England
Parish as it Appears St Martin in the Fields
Father
Robert Evans
Mother
Harriett Evans


Name Robert William Evens
Gender Male
Death Age 3/12
Record Type Burial
Birth Date abt 1823
Death Date 1824
Burial Date 21 Sep 1824
Burial Place St Martin in the Fields, Westminster, England
Register Type Bishop's Transcript

Delboy1978

Delboy1978 Report 9 Feb 2024 19:20

So they had two boys called Robert and the first one died?

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 9 Feb 2024 19:22

There are various possibilities for Mary Ann Evans in 1851, especially if the year of birth wasn't recorded correctly.

This one is the nearest to her actual 1832 birth - but it's impossible to prove if this is her or not:

Mary Evans
in the 1851 England Census
Name Mary Evans
Age 18
Estimated Birth Year abt 1833
Relation Servant
Gender Female
Where born London, England
Civil parish Islington
Ecclesiastical parish St Mary
County/Island Middlesex
Country England
Registration district Islington
Sub-registration district Islington East
ED, institution, or vessel 25b
Neighbors
Household schedule number 386
Piece 1502
Folio 52
Page number 11
Household Members (Name) Age Relationship
Edward Wade 43 Head
Caroline Wade 35 Wife
Edward Wade 4 Son
Caroline Wade 3 Daughter
Elizabeth Wade 2 Daughter
Mary Evans 18 Servant
John W Gowan 51 Lodger
Tipping 38 Lodger

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 9 Feb 2024 19:24

From OP

Robert and Mary Evans are my 3rd GG parents and had the following children.

Delboy1978

Delboy1978 Report 9 Feb 2024 19:26

This is what I believe is Mary Ann Evans Baptism Record which gives DOB

Name Mary Evans
Age 0
Birth Date 26 Mar 1832
Baptism Date 13 May 1832
Baptism Place St Anne, Soho, London, Westminster, England
Parish as it Appears St Anne's Church, Westminster
Father Robert Evans
Mother Harriet Evans