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22 Dec 2023 15:37 |
Hello I wondered if anyone might be able to help me find Joseph on the 1901 and 1921 censuses please? I have his birth certificate born 19th March 1898 in Liscard, Cheshire. His parents Joseph Hodgin and Lily Wilson Hodgin nee Sweeting. I also have them on the 1911 census which I will post below.
Joseph Hodgin in the 1911 England Census Name Joseph Hodgin Age in 1911 31 Estimated Birth Year abt 1880 Relation to Head Head Gender Male Birth Place Guidebrige, Lancashire, England Civil parish Walker County/Island Northumberland Country England Street Address 1589 Walker Rd Walker Marital Status Married Occupation Engine Driver New Ship Yard Registration District Number 559 Sub-registration district Longbenton ED, institution, or vessel 18 Piece 30790 Household Members (Name) Age Relationship Joseph Hodgin 31 Head Hodgin 31 Wife Joseph William Hodgin 13 Son Sarah Lilian Hodgin 11 Daughter Mary Jane Hodgin 8 Daughter George Hodgin 5 Son Josephine Hodgin 3 Daughter
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22 Dec 2023 15:40 |
From FMP for accurate places of birth
1911 Census For England & Wales 1589 Walker Road Walker on Tyne, Walker, Northumberland, England
First name(s) Last name Relationship to head Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place Joseph Hodgin Head Married Male 31 1880 Engine driver new ship yard Lancs Guidebrige - Hodgin Wife Married Female 31 1880 - Staffordshire Birmingham Joseph William Hodgin Son - Male 13 1898 School Cheshire New Brighton Sarah Lilian Hodgin Daughter - Female 11 1900 School Yorks Sheffield Mary Jane Hodgin Daughter - Female 8 1903 School Derbyshire Heeley George Hodgin Son - Male 5 1906 School Cheshire Birkenhead Josephine Hodgin Daughter - Female 3 1908 - Yorks Conisboro
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22 Dec 2023 15:43 |
This looks like him in 1921
1921 Census Of England & Wales 10, Dearne Street, Conisbrough, Yorkshire (West Riding), England
First name(s) Last name Relationship to head Sex Birth year Age in years Birth place Occupation Employer George Sweeton Head Male 1843 78 Yorkshire, England - - Sarah Sweeton Wife Female 1871 49 Killamarsh, Derbyshire, England - - Joseph William Hodgen Grandson Male 1898 23 New Brighton, Cheshire, England Hand Bottle Labourer Belower Kilne Labourer Arthur Burton Lodger Male 1868 53 Doncaster, Yorkshire, England General Labourer Brick Works Labourer Brick Works
----------------------------------------- Although this may well be the same person in 1911 - so has he been recorded twice in 1911? New Brighton would appear to be a part of Wallasey
1911 Census For England & Wales 10 Dearne Street Conisboro, Conisbrough, Yorkshire & Yorkshire (West Riding), England
First name(s) Last name Relationship to head Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place William Wilson Head Married Male 70 1841 Labourer Yorkshire Holden Sarah Wilson Wife Married Female 61 1850 - Derbyshire Killamarsh Joseph William Hodgin Grandson Married Male 13 1898 School Wallasey Cheshire George Round - - Male 36 1875 - Worcestershire
--------------------------- His birth - the only one by that name 1898 +/- 2 Name: Mother's Maiden Surname: HODGIN, JOSEPH WILLIAM WILSON GRO Reference: 1898 J Quarter in BIRKENHEAD Volume 08A Page 575
------------------- Parents marriage? Surname First name(s) District Vol Page Marriages Dec 1897 (>99%) Atkinson Michael Liverpool 8b 305 Hodgin Joseph Liverpool 8b 305 McGunningham Margaret Liverpool 8b 305 Sweeting Lily Wilson Liverpool 8b 305
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22 Dec 2023 15:47 |
Brilliiant thats him...thank you very much :-)
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Graham
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22 Dec 2023 15:55 |
Thats the birth record i have. it does say Lily Wilson. I just thought the Sweeting had been missed off :-S
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greyghost
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22 Dec 2023 16:01 |
Grandparents are Sweeton in 1921 and Wilson in 1911. No time at the moment to chase up why the difference
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ArgyllGran
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22 Dec 2023 16:02 |
Siblings also have mmn Wilson.
HODGIN, GEORGE mmn WILSON GRO Reference: 1905 D Quarter in BIRKENHEAD Volume 08A Page 448
HODGIN, JOSEPHINE mmn WILSON GRO Reference: 1907 S Quarter in DONCASTER Volume 09C Page 875
HODGIN, MARY JANE mmn WILSON GRO Reference: 1903 M Quarter in ECCLESALL BIERLOW Volume 09C Page 476
The mother is Wilson in 1881 and 1891.
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Graham
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22 Dec 2023 16:03 |
Thank you for all that you have done
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Graham
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22 Dec 2023 16:05 |
The marriage in 1897 was between Joseph Hodgin and Lily Wilson Sweeting All a little odd
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Graham
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22 Dec 2023 16:06 |
Lily's father was entered onn the marriage certificate as William Wilson Sweeting an Engine Driver
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ArgyllGran
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22 Dec 2023 16:26 |
Is Sarah (Lily's mother) perhaps with a different partner in 1921??
The father is named William Wilson in 1911, but George Sweeton in 1921.
I don't see a marriage, but she and Lily may have taken his name.
EDIT: On second thoughts - no. Lily had already added Sweeton/Sweeting to her name by 1897.
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22 Dec 2023 16:37 |
At 10 Dearne Street 1921-23:
George Sweeton [ with Sarah Sweeton and Joseph William Hodgin ] in the West Yorkshire, England, Electoral Registers, 1840-1962 Name George Sweeton Residence Date 1923 Residence Place Don Valley, West Yorkshire, England Street Address 10 Dearne Street Reference Number DON-V:2/7
William Wilson is listed there 1910-15.
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22 Dec 2023 19:08 |
British Army Service Records
First name(s) Joseph William Regiment York And Lancaster Regiment Last name Hodgin Unit / Battalion 8th, 3rd Reserve Battalion, 1/5th Depot Birth year 1898 Series WO 363 Birth town New Brighton Series description Wo 363 - First World War Service Records 'Burnt Documents' Birth county Cheshire Archive The National Archives Birth country England Record set British Army Service Records Age 18 Category Military, armed forces & conflict Year 1917 Subcategory First World War Service number 42149
A Glassblower when he enlisted 6.6.16 and was mobilised on 23 April 1917 at Pontefract to the Yorks and Lancs Regiment, No. 42149. First joined for duty 23/6/1917. Went to France 27.7.1917 to 29.12.1917f when wounded Dec 1917. Home. Further to France with BEF 25.8.1918 for Italy to 27..4.1919 Discharged 20 April 1919 on compassionate grounds Address of NOK on one document is Grandfather at 10 Dearne Street, Conisboro, Nr Rotherham Single at this point
S. Sweeton of 10 Dearne St writes to the Regt, asking after her Boy, not having heard from him for 3 weeks. Reply 19.11.1918, still serving with unit.
An earlier form gives his NOK as his Father - Joseph Hodgin of 34 ? Shackleton Street, Newcastle on Tyne
Awarded British War Medal and victory Medal
He writes to ? who, saying he has lost his Discharge papers and describing himself as a bit of a down and out and says he could do with bit of help from the British Legion. This appears to be late in 1931 with an address of 157 South Street, Highfields, Nr Doncaster
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Graham
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22 Dec 2023 19:10 |
Amazing thank you both for your kind help <3
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greyghost
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22 Dec 2023 19:11 |
His Father in 1921 whose wife is once again as per 1911 census shown as Mrs Hodgin 1921 Census Of England & Wales 46, Charlton Street, Gateshead, Durham, England
First name(s) Last name Relationship to head Sex Birth year Age in years Birth place Occupation Employer Joseph Hodgin Head Male 1879 42 Lancashire, England Engine Driver Sir Wiliam Aroll Contracors Pipewelgate - Hodgin Wife Female 1879 42 Birmingham, Warwickshire, England At Home - Sarah Lilian Hodgin Daughter Female 1899 21 Sheffield, Yorkshire, England At Home - George Hodgin Son Male 1905 15 Birkenhead, Cheshire, England Errand Boy Newcastle Grill Josephine Hodgin Daughter Female 1907 14 Conisbrough, Yorkshire, England - -
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22 Dec 2023 19:13 |
1901 census could be interesting but under what name ??
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22 Dec 2023 19:17 |
1891 England, Wales & Scotland Census 8, Hague Lane, Eckington, Chesterfield, Derbyshire, England
William Wilson Head Married Male 56 1835 Railway engine driver Loxton, Yorkshire, England Sarah Wilson Wife Married Female 40 1851 - Killamarsh, Derbyshire, England Annie Wilson Daughter Single Female 18 1873 - Sheffield, Yorkshire, England William Wilson Son Single Male 22 1869 General labourer Sheffield, Yorkshire, England Lilly Wilson Daughter Single Female 12 1879 - Birmingham
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22 Dec 2023 19:21 |
On the 1921 census George Sweeton (Sweeting) shows as being born in Laxon, Yorks.
Could this be Laxton - East Riding, 2 miles East of Howden and in the Howden RD
One of these births?
Name: Mother's Maiden Surname: SWEETING, GEORGE SLATER GRO Reference: 1841 S Quarter in HOWDEN Volume 23 Page 62
NO - His death - Name: Age at Death (in years): SWEETING, GEORGE 0 GRO Reference: 1842 M Quarter in HOWDEN Volume 23 Page 45
So this birth -
GRO Reference: 1842 M Quarter in HOWDEN Volume 23 Page 45 SWEETING, GEORGE PINDER
Surname First name(s) District Vol Page Marriages Mar 1843 (>99%) Bedford Ann Howden 23 81 Bennett William Howden 23 81 COATES George Howden 23 81 Dyson Hannah Howden 23 81 Pinder Martha Howden 23 81 PRATT Mary Howden 23 81 Rushforth John Howden 23 81 SWEETING John Howden 23 81
1851 England, Wales & Scotland Census High Street, Laxton, Howden, Yorkshire & Yorkshire (East Riding), England
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place John Sweeting Head Married Male 28 1823 Farm labourer Adlingfleet, Yorkshire, England Martha Sweeting Wife Married Female 27 1824 Labourer's wife Laxton, Yorkshire, England George Sweeting Son - Male 7 1844 Labourer son Laxton, Yorkshire, England Catharine Sweeting Daughter - Female 3 1848 Labourer daughter Laxton, Yorkshire, England Henry Sweeting Son - Male 1 1850 Labourer daughter Laxton, Yorkshire, England
1861 England, Wales & Scotland Census South Duffield, Selby, Yorkshire & Yorkshire (West Riding), England
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place John Sweeting Head Married Male 38 1823 Farm labourer Yorkshire, England Martha Sweeting Wife Married Female 37 1824 Farm labourers wife Yorkshire, England Catherine Sweeting Daughter Unmarried Female 12 1849 - Yorkshire, England Henry Sweeting Son Unmarried Male 10 1851 - Yorkshire, England Jabez Sweeting Son Unmarried Male 8 1853 - Yorkshire, England Charles Sweeting Son Unmarried Male 6 1855 - Yorkshire, England Edward Sweeting Son Unmarried Male 4 1857 - Yorkshire, England Richard Sweeting Son Unmarried Male 2 1859 - Yorkshire, England John Sweeting Son Unmarried Male 0 1861 - South Duffield, Yorkshire, England
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ErikaH
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22 Dec 2023 19:21 |
WILSON, LILLY BATTY GRO Reference: 1879 J Quarter in ASTON Volume 06D Page 343
Lilly’s birthplace shown as Birmingham in 1911 and 1921(above)
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ErikaH
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22 Dec 2023 21:03 |
1911 census for 10 Dearne Street, Conisbrough
William Wilson, Head Sarah Wilson, Wife Joseph William HODGIN, grandson
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