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Our researcher has managed to get a response from a descendent one of the married ones of the four who has taken a test which rules out her line and reduces the candidates to three.
A trawl of descendents of George, the other married one with children, has got a response so she was sent a test just before Christmas which, if she sent it off, will take a few weeks to get a result back which will either confirm that line or narrow the answer down to the two unmarried brothers.
So, the waiting game begins.
I do hope that George proves positive so we get a final answer.

I have just switched machines ( I pad power cut out )to change that to inappropriate.

It deosn't matter who made the comment my reaction would have been the same.

I CLEARLY said, ‘in many cases’ so why are you jumping on me- or is that simply out of habit?

Good luck, Brian, I hope you get a response.

Erika - maybe you shouldn’t have thought out loud. I think your comment that men who don’t marry have no interest in women, offensive.

We are writing to descendants of the married ones but, as ErihaH says, for the unmarried ones we need to dip into famly rumours.

Not sure what OP is asking for...................unless he thinks his OH's grandfather sired several illegitimate children. The man being sought could just as easily have been one of the married brothers.. In many cases, men who don't marry have no interest in women..............

Just trying to rationalise.........................thinking 'out loud', as it were.

The descendants of the joint grandfather would be a closer match than those of the other siblings.

If Brian & his OH decide to ask for the family to take dna tests then yes, he needs someone from as many siblings as he can find to test. If they are lucky the answer could come quite quickly.

Unfortunately many people that have taken a dna test have absolutely no interest in connecting with family.

I have very little knowledge of DNA - and not much interest, if truth be told - but wouldn't ANY direct descendant of the parents of the brothers named have some familial matching? Or is that being too simplistic?

Wouldn't it be less complicated to look for legitimate children and their offspring?

So now you’ve got to decide whether to contact the family or be content knowing which family it is.

Good luck

Nameless,
That is definitely the right family. In fact they had twelve children plus almost certainly an extra one born before the parents married.
Monsell was unmarried and childless and died 2 years before Victor, whose father we are trying to determine, was conceived in 1920 so could not be the father.
Ambrose had married in 1914 and moved to London, so is not on the 1921 IoW census.

Hi Brian, I looked for Ambrose, both in the Search all members trees and then on Ancestry public trees as it is an unusual name. On here I then looked for George and saw the same members names.

There were a lot of trees on Ancestry and one that I picked to look at was a family member. I will check if I have given you the right tree holder and come back.

Added: yes, it was ‘The Powell Family Tree’. There was two other brothers, Monsell who died in France in 1918 age 28. Can’t see a marriage for him on freebmd., and the eldest Alfred who did marry and have at least one child.
Check the 1901 census posted yesterday.

Look in 'search all member trees'

Hello Namelessone,
Please could you expand your post above and point me in the right direction.
Thank you.

Rain, you Did know that the Jenkins family are in trees on here. Do you feel able to make contact.

I have to admit we didn’t do that, we just wanted to know who the man was and it explained why a certain county was so strongly indicated on the ethnicity results.

Added: there are a lot a trees on Ancestry with this family. At least one (Powell) is a descendant of George.

Thank you for all the input, apologies if the question was not clear. Nameless one has the correct interpretation.
OH's grandmother would never give any information of the father of OH's dad and it's only by engaging a professional researcher to go down the DNA route that the four possibles and location has been established.
Re: 1921 census the Jenkins establishment was a boarding house, so the "vsitors" would be paying guests, not relatives.
What I was trying to ask was whether anyone had family hearsay that Harry or Oliver had fathered a child whose descendant we could ask to do a DNA test. Or someone may even be a descendant of that illegitimate child but knows the father's name was Harry or Oliver Jenkins
OH's Ancestry DNA has been put on Geneanet, Gedmatch, FamilytreeDNA, MyHeritage and MyLivingDNA. A close match with Coral F comes up on MYHeritage but she has unknown ancestors so can't look back far enough.

Brian
We had exactly the same problem, not knowing who OH,s grandfather was. Two 2 nd cousin matches on Ancestry led me to several brothers, it was a match on My Heritage of a cousin once removed ( younger generation) led us back to the shared ancestor - OH’s grandfather.

Names.

Bother, other IPad conked out halfway through.

AG asked about the grandfathers mother.

One of the Jenkins brothers is probably the grandfather of Brian’s OH. If Brian and his OH want to work out which brother is the grandfather they need the dna of their descendants.
By matching the dna of their descendants to the OH Brian should then be able to work out which one is correct.

By asking about possible illegitimate children Brian is just trying to cover all bases.

Only DNA will lead them to the grandfather unless that knowledge has been passed down to later generations, which would be surprising.

I made no mention of the mother of the four brothers!

As far as can be deduced the child of one of the Jenkins brothers is the unknown quantity………..the parent of the OP’s OH.

Unless the wording is incredibly misleading…………

`If OP’s OH knows both of her birth parents, why are we being asked to look for children of a potential grandfather?

Brian is looking for his mother or father in law’s father. I.e OH’s grandfather. ( my mistake to just say mother in law).

Brian has found 4 brothers so why the need to look at Their mother. As he found the 4 they would presumably have been together. Brian is now wondering if the 2 thought not to have legitimate children may have had illegitimate ones - an impossible task unless they crop up as a DNA match. Which is why I suggested that Brian puts his OH’s DNA on other sites - just in case one pops up there.
By finding descendants of some of the brothers they should be able to work out which is the grandfather

OH's grandfather is the person being sought, and the OP is looking for HIS children. Presumably one of them is OH's parent?????????

I see no reference to mother-in-law in OP's text..............