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Trying to find a family in the 1841, I have put in most of the family Christian names and just unable to find the family. Name of Stopford and living in Droylsden or Ashton under Lyne Lancashire. Believe husband Abraham died 3 Mar 1841, so unsure if they didn't admit their census because of his death. Another pair of eyes please

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Event Type Census
Name Abigail Stofsford
Sex Female
Age 38
Event Date 1841
Event Place Ashton Under Lyne, Lancashire, England, United Kingdom
Event Place (Original) Ashton Under Lyne, Lancashire, England
Registration District Ashton & Oldham
Birth Year (Estimated) 1799-1803
Birthplace Lancashire
Page Number 24
Piece/Folio 532/44
Registration Number HO107
Other People on This Record

Abraham Stofsford
M
38
Lancashire
Thomas Stofsford
M
13
Lancashire
James Stofsford
M
9
Lancashire
Elizabeth Stofsford
F
7
Lancashire
Abraham Stofsford
M
5
Lancashire
Jane Stofsford
F
2
Lancashire


who was abrahams wife and childrens names

I have seen this one but on the 1851 census Abraham wasn't on it and states mother widow of son William b 1821 ,his wife and siblings was named Mary. So this is not the Abraham I want. Many thanks

Event Type Census
Name William Stopford
Sex Male
Age 20
Event Date 1841
Event Place Manchester, Lancashire, England, United Kingdom
Event Place (Original) Manchester, Lancashire, England
Registration District Ashton & Oldham
Birth Year (Estimated) 1817-1821
Birthplace Lancashire
Page Number 18
Piece/Folio 581/13
Registration Number HO107
Other People on This Record

Mary Stopford
F
45
Lancashire
Sarah Stopford
F
20
Lancashire
Ann Stopford
F
15
Lancashire
Joseph Stopford
M
12
Lancashire
Paul Stopford
M
10
Lancashire
Abraham Stopford
M
7
Lancashire
Mary Stopford
F
4
Lancashire

Is this the father

STOPFORD, ABRAHAM 46
GRO Reference: 1841 M Quarter in ASHTON AND OLDHAM Volume 20 Page 25


The death cert should hopefully give his address which will help the search

How do you know the exact date of death?

If you want help, you need to give all the family forenames. We can’t guess at what they were.

I think this is the 1851 census record you mean?

Mary Stopford
in the 1851 England Census
Name: Mary Stopford
Age: 56
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1795
Relation: Mother
Gender: Female
Where born: Droylsden, Lancashire, England
Civil Parish: Droylsden
Ecclesiastical parish: St Mary
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Street Address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage:
Disability:
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Registration District: Ashton Under Lyne
Sub-registration District: Audenshaw
ED, institution, or vessel: 1e
Neighbors:
Household Schedule Number: 67
Piece: 2234
Folio: 126
Page Number: 20
Household Members:
Name Age
William Stopford 30 - bricklayer
Mary Stopford 22 - wife
Mary Stopford 56 - mother, widow
Sarah Stopford 32 - sister
Paul Stopford 19 - brother
Alm Stopford 17 - brother
Mary Stopford 15 - sister
Alice Stopford 6 - niece

The 1841 census? :-

EDIT - same record safc posted.

1841 England, Wales & Scotland Census
Droylsden Lane Head, Manchester, Ashton & Oldham, Lancashire, England

First name(s) Last name Sex Age Birth year Birth place

Mary Stopford Female 45 1796 Lancashire, England
Sarah Stopford Female 20 1821 Lancashire, England
William Stopford Male 20 1821 Lancashire, England
Ann Stopford Female 15 1826 Lancashire, England
Joseph Stopford Male 12 1829 Lancashire, England
Paul Stopford Male 10 1831 Lancashire, England
Abraham Stopford Male 7 1834 Lancashire, England
Mary Stopford Female 4 1837 Lancashire, England

Kath. x

Yes I had found the family in both these census, i I just can’t find a marriage for Abraham and Mary nor a birth for Abraham. However I did find a marriage of Abraham Stopford and Betty Andrews (Ashton) in 1780 in Ashton under Lyne but couldn’t find if they had a son Abraham . Found a connection possibly of this marriage because Abraham and Mary had a daughter named Betty baptised 29th June 1823. Obviously in the 1841 and 1851 census Abraham husband was not listed so presume he was the death listed in 1841

Your post said you were trying to find them in 1841............................

Is THIS the record which you think is relevant?

Burial: 3 Mar 1841 St Peter, Ashton under Lyne, Lancashire, England
Abraham Stopford -
Age: 36 years
Abode: Droylsden
Buried by: T. R. Bently
Register: Burials 1839 - 1844, Page 59, Entry 466
Source: LDS Film 235576


How did you work back to this man? Which of the 'children' is your proven line?

Sorry, I had not found the family in 1841, but I had found the names of the children on Family Search. Also found the marriage of a daughter Betty Stopford, with father Abraham his occ Bricklayer, which seems to connect with son William in 1851 census also a bricklayer by trade

Yes ErikaH I presume this is the death of Abraham Stopford, which makes him born approx 1805 which unable to find on Family Search

You need the death cert - for its info about the man's occupation, his address, and the informant's details

You MAY be on the right track, but if you want an accurate tree, you need facts.

Marriage: 31 Oct 1858 St Stephen, Audenshaw, Lancashire, England
John Holgate - 25 yrs, Weaver, Bachelor, Audenshaw
Mary Stopford - (X), 22 yrs, Weaver, Spinster, Droylsden
Groom's Father: James Holgate, Grocer
Bride's Father: Abraham Stopford, Bricklayer
Witness: Joshua Rothwell, (X); Mary Rothwell, (X)
Married by Registrar's certificate by: Thomas T. Eagar M. A.
Register: Marriages 1846 - 1867, Page 63, Entry 125
Source: LDS Family Search

Will send for death certificate for Abraham Stopford, I can see the address of the family in 1841 census. . Many thanks to you all for info x

Name: Sarah Stopford
Gender: Female
Baptism Date: 11 Apr 1819
Baptism Place: Saint Michael, Ashton Under Lyne,Lancashire,England
Father: Abraham Stopford
Mother: Mary



Name: Ann Stopford
Gender: Female
Baptism Date: 8 Jul 1821
Baptism Place: Saint Michael,Ashton Under Lyne,Lancashire,England
Father: Abraham Stopford
Mother: Mary

Name: Paul Stopford
Baptism Date: 10 Jun 1832
Parish: Ashton-under-Lyne, Lancashire, England
Father: Abraham Stopford*************************************WEAVER
Mother: Mary Stopford
Register Type: Bishop's Transcripts
Reference Number: Drm 2/11/1

Name: William Stopford
Birth Year: abt 1822
Marriage Date: 24 Jun 1850
Parish: Manchester, St Mary, St Denys and St George
Father's Name: Abraham Stopford***************Bricklayer
Spouse's Name: Mary Beswick
Spouse's Father's Name: Samuel Beswick

Oh wow Erika H so that’s a different occ of Abraham. Just looked at the marriage of William Baptised 22Apr 1821another son and father Abraham bricklayer. so he must have changed career because Paul is his brother. I am actually going down the line of William Stopford my late sister in laws line.