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James Cree 1916

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Pauline

Pauline Report 16 Jun 2021 19:55

Hello
Ihave a James Cree 1916 b AYRSHIRE married JANE SHARP in Dalton in Furness Lancashire
On his birth record on Ancestry his Fathers name is William
Could anyone help with his parents please
Thank you

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 16 Jun 2021 19:59

Look for his birth on Scotland’s people website and download a copy of the cert

You will need to purchase credits

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 16 Jun 2021 20:03

Where on Ancestry did you find such recent Scottish births?

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 16 Jun 2021 20:05

Obviously born 1816

Marriages Jun 1847 (>99%)
CREE James Ulverstone 25 205
SHARP Jane Ulverstone 25 205

You still need to look at SP….or buy a copy of the marriage cert

EDITED

The marriage is on LanOPC site…..free

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 16 Jun 2021 20:11

I can't see a baptism on Ancestry with a father Wiliam - the only one seems to be for one with a father Andrew

The tree someone has on Ancestry has inaccurate links

Pauline

Pauline Report 16 Jun 2021 21:17

oh thank you for that

alviegal

alviegal Report 16 Jun 2021 21:18

Marriage: 22 May 1847 St Mary, Dalton in Furness, Lancashire, England
James Cree - (X), Full age, Miner, Bachelor, Lindale
Jane Sharp - (X), Full age, Spinster, Lindale
Groom's Father: William Cree, Yeoman
Bride's Father: Laurence Sharp, Farmer
Witness: Ann Brakewell; William Sawrey
Married by: James M Morgan, Curate
Register: Marriages 1837 - 1855 from Bishop's Transcripts, Page 115, Entry 230
Source: LDS Film 1040304

I'm not finding any birth records or even a William Cree born in Ayrshire early enough to be his father in any records.


There is this one but he's born in Fife.


CREE

JAMES

WILLIAM CREE/MARGT. LOW

M

18/03/1817

426/

40 439

Dysart

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 16 Jun 2021 21:21

This is the only baptism on SP of a James Cree with father William in approx 1816-ish.
BUT it's in Fife, not Ayrshire - on the other side of the country and a fair bit further north:

CREE
JAMES
WILLIAM CREE/MARGT. LOW
M
18/03/1817
426/
40 439
Dysart


The only baptism of a James Cree in Ayrshire around that time is this one - but father is not William:

CREE
JAMES SHIELDS
JAMES CREE/GRIZZEL MCVICCAR FR1114 (FR1114)
M
17/07/1819
578/
60 181
Ayr

Pauline

Pauline Report 16 Jun 2021 21:25


Marriage record his Father was William
From IDS film no 1040304

Pauline

Pauline Report 16 Jun 2021 21:26

Thank you

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 16 Jun 2021 21:30

Yes, Alviegal has posted the marriage details above, but we can't find any baptism for a James Cree born in Ayrshire around 1816 with father named William.


There's this William in Ayrshire, who would be of an age to have a son born c1816 - but no way to know if he ever did have a son named James.
You'd also have to look at the image of the census on ScotlandsPeople to see exactly what his name was - Cray or Dray.
Anyway - he's a joiner, not a yeoman.

William Cray
in the 1841 Scotland Census
Name: William Cray
Age: 60
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1781
Gender: Male
Where born: Ayrshire, Scotland
Civil parish: Ardrossan
County: Ayrshire
Address: Ardrossan Glasgow St
Occupation: Joiner
Parish Number: 576
Household Members Age
William Cray 60
Agness Dray 65
Janet Dray 35
Elisabeth Dray 30
Agness Bernick 11
Agness Murdock 5

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 16 Jun 2021 22:04

Pauline

You stated that his father was William on a BIRTH record. To help us to help you, please give the full details

Maddie

Maddie Report 17 Jun 2021 12:59

1841
Name: James Cree
Age: 20
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1821
Gender: Male
Where born: Ireland could be s not i
Civil Parish: Ulverstone
Hundred: Lonsdale
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Street Address:
Occupation:
View image
Registration District: Ulverstone
Sub-registration District: Hawkehead
Neighbors:
Piece: 531
Book: 2
Folio: 26
Page Number: 8
Household Members:
Name Age
James Cree 20

Maddie

Maddie Report 17 Jun 2021 13:06

lots of trees on ancestry no proof of his birth