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James Cree 1916

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Maddie

Maddie Report 17 Jun 2021 13:06

lots of trees on ancestry no proof of his birth

Maddie

Maddie Report 17 Jun 2021 12:59

1841
Name: James Cree
Age: 20
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1821
Gender: Male
Where born: Ireland could be s not i
Civil Parish: Ulverstone
Hundred: Lonsdale
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Street Address:
Occupation:
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Registration District: Ulverstone
Sub-registration District: Hawkehead
Neighbors:
Piece: 531
Book: 2
Folio: 26
Page Number: 8
Household Members:
Name Age
James Cree 20

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 16 Jun 2021 22:04

Pauline

You stated that his father was William on a BIRTH record. To help us to help you, please give the full details

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 16 Jun 2021 21:30

Yes, Alviegal has posted the marriage details above, but we can't find any baptism for a James Cree born in Ayrshire around 1816 with father named William.


There's this William in Ayrshire, who would be of an age to have a son born c1816 - but no way to know if he ever did have a son named James.
You'd also have to look at the image of the census on ScotlandsPeople to see exactly what his name was - Cray or Dray.
Anyway - he's a joiner, not a yeoman.

William Cray
in the 1841 Scotland Census
Name: William Cray
Age: 60
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1781
Gender: Male
Where born: Ayrshire, Scotland
Civil parish: Ardrossan
County: Ayrshire
Address: Ardrossan Glasgow St
Occupation: Joiner
Parish Number: 576
Household Members Age
William Cray 60
Agness Dray 65
Janet Dray 35
Elisabeth Dray 30
Agness Bernick 11
Agness Murdock 5

Pauline

Pauline Report 16 Jun 2021 21:26

Thank you

Pauline

Pauline Report 16 Jun 2021 21:25


Marriage record his Father was William
From IDS film no 1040304

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 16 Jun 2021 21:21

This is the only baptism on SP of a James Cree with father William in approx 1816-ish.
BUT it's in Fife, not Ayrshire - on the other side of the country and a fair bit further north:

CREE
JAMES
WILLIAM CREE/MARGT. LOW
M
18/03/1817
426/
40 439
Dysart


The only baptism of a James Cree in Ayrshire around that time is this one - but father is not William:

CREE
JAMES SHIELDS
JAMES CREE/GRIZZEL MCVICCAR FR1114 (FR1114)
M
17/07/1819
578/
60 181
Ayr

alviegal

alviegal Report 16 Jun 2021 21:18

Marriage: 22 May 1847 St Mary, Dalton in Furness, Lancashire, England
James Cree - (X), Full age, Miner, Bachelor, Lindale
Jane Sharp - (X), Full age, Spinster, Lindale
Groom's Father: William Cree, Yeoman
Bride's Father: Laurence Sharp, Farmer
Witness: Ann Brakewell; William Sawrey
Married by: James M Morgan, Curate
Register: Marriages 1837 - 1855 from Bishop's Transcripts, Page 115, Entry 230
Source: LDS Film 1040304

I'm not finding any birth records or even a William Cree born in Ayrshire early enough to be his father in any records.


There is this one but he's born in Fife.


CREE

JAMES

WILLIAM CREE/MARGT. LOW

M

18/03/1817

426/

40 439

Dysart

Pauline

Pauline Report 16 Jun 2021 21:17

oh thank you for that

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 16 Jun 2021 20:11

I can't see a baptism on Ancestry with a father Wiliam - the only one seems to be for one with a father Andrew

The tree someone has on Ancestry has inaccurate links

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 16 Jun 2021 20:05

Obviously born 1816

Marriages Jun 1847 (>99%)
CREE James Ulverstone 25 205
SHARP Jane Ulverstone 25 205

You still need to look at SP….or buy a copy of the marriage cert

EDITED

The marriage is on LanOPC site…..free

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 16 Jun 2021 20:03

Where on Ancestry did you find such recent Scottish births?

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 16 Jun 2021 19:59

Look for his birth on Scotland’s people website and download a copy of the cert

You will need to purchase credits

Pauline

Pauline Report 16 Jun 2021 19:55

Hello
Ihave a James Cree 1916 b AYRSHIRE married JANE SHARP in Dalton in Furness Lancashire
On his birth record on Ancestry his Fathers name is William
Could anyone help with his parents please
Thank you