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Thank you all I will speak to my niece again

Oh well, it looks like we can disregard the plumber from Bannockburn .

Ian as a carpenter by profession
name definitely Ian no middle name

Elizabeth -

what was Ian's occupation?

Was his name perhaps really John, but he was known as Ian within the family?

Outbound,

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Mrs V Mcdonald
Gender: Female
Age: 24
Birth Date: abt 1924
Departure Date: >>>>23 Mar 1948>>Carnarvon Castle<<<<<
Search Ship Database: Search for the Carnarvon Castle in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database
Shipping Line: Union Castle Line
Official Number: 148766
Master: T W Mcallen

travling with,,,,,, entered as Mr ,J McDonald aged 25 and a plummer.

last address,,,,,,,47 Park Cres Bannockburn.

Yes, that's what I thought, ErikaH - then was put off by Elizabeth's info about living in London or SA - but of course could still be valid re Ian's family.

There are passenger lists on FMP for many Arundel Castle sailings, but NOT for one the date to which you refer
If one inputs the year, departure port and destination country, with keyword 'Arundel' there are 5339 results, of whom 178 were born in 1924, but none for the names in question.

AG

The husband was Scottish, so it’s not beyond the realms of possibility for that incoming record to be relevant

Hmmm - probably not the woman going to Stirling then.

But the fact remains, the passenger list for that particular voyage of the Arundel Castle is not online, unfortunately. (Nor any outgoing voyage)

First of all than k you for all that information
I got the information from their daughter

Violet was my sister in law and she recently died age 97. you are right about the marriage date
According to my niece they went to South Africa on the Arundel castle on the 10th Nov 1948 When they were in England they lived somewhere near London but when they were in South Africa they lived in Johannesburg I met them in 1955

????Travelling in the opposite direction ??

[ But Violet McDonald isn't an uncommon name.]

Violet McDonald
in the UK and Ireland, Incoming Passenger Lists, 1878-1960
Name: Violet McDonald
Arrival Age: 23
Birth Date: abt 1924
Port of Departure: Cape Town, South Africa
Arrival Date: 14 Feb 1947
Port of Arrival: Southampton, England
Ports of Voyage: Batavia; Singapore and Colombo
Ship Name: Carnarvon Castle
Shipping Line: Union-Castle Coltd
Official Number: 148766

Travelling alone.
Occupation: housewife.

Proposed address: 47 Park Crescent, Bannockburn, Stirling.

Where did your couple (or Ian's family ) live? Does that address sound possible?

They married in England:

Marriages Sep 1945
McDonald Ian Rainbird Ilford 4a 1219
Rainbird Violet E McDonald Ilford 4a 1219

Violet is a 'closed' record on 1939 register.

NO result for the woman’s name on FMP travel records

And no record of a sailing matching your info - as stated earlier

Who gave you the info about a possible sailing?

Is there any documentary backup?

I am going through passenger lists on ancestry b ut there are over 2000
I dont know where else to look
Ian Mcdonald born 1020 scotland
Violet Ellen mcdonald nee Rainbird born 1924 longon

so if anybody can come up anything i will be very grateful
Thank you

Elizabeth

Ditto FMP

I'm not seeing that particular voyage on Ancestry.

Lots of other "Arundel Castle" voyages - but not that one.

Marked as answered - with NO feedback :-S :-S :-S

the list is here

ships and Passenger Lists of Polish WW2 DPs arriving from ...
http://www.polishresettlementcampsintheuk.co.uk › shi...
SHIPS ARRIVING IN SOUTHAMPTON ... HMT EMPIRE TROOPER. April 21st. 1948. PASSENGER LIST. CARNARVON CASTLE. May 4th 1948. PASSENGER LIST. RMS ARUNDEL CASTLE ... November 8th 1946 ... August 10th 1947 ... from Durban via Capetown and New York to Liverpool on March 26th 1943 with 141 ...

click on ships naes and pasenger list
scroll down to ship arundel

You won’t find the passenger list as such unless you look for an actual name when passenger list will come up and you can look through


Was there names you are looking for ?